2005-10-13 01:09:03

Hey

guys,

Since Adora is still on permenet vaction, as I think, is it legal

to  start cracking software?
What's evgeryone think?
IF not, why not?
If

so, why so?

  HOlden

2005-10-13 02:06:02

It

should just be abandan where.

2005-10-13 03:10:45

No. Unless the owner grants license it is illegal. It doesn't matter if

the game is for sale anymore or not.

2005-10-13 03:28:50

I

don't care, Adora doesn't know, Adora doesn't care. Let's crack em! Who

knows how to crack? Or the other option is to give eachother keys...

Regards,
Mike
Co-Founder, RS Games
www.rsgames.org

2005-10-13 06:30:19 (edited by arjan 2005-10-13 06:33:58)

i

know what you mean, bavisoft. but we can't buy the games anymore can we?

and those who still want to play the games and not the demos the only chance

to get them is to crack them isn't it?
well they can always do like self

destruct they can get a keygen in the game so someone who still wants to

play the full versions can use it. well, nothing about this may be true, its

just my oppinion. i don't care what they do, but i would like to play the

full version of mb or something so i cant do it now

2005-10-13 09:13:57

It's

illegal no matter why you think you should be able to do it or not. If the

company has not released the games as freeware or abandonware, then it's

illegal to crack them.
Though I must say, I would much love a full version

of MB, since I played the demo and thought it was half-decent, anyway.

Check out my Manamon text walkthrough at the following link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8ls3rc3f4mkb … n.txt?dl=1

2005-10-13 09:39:04

Well maybe it isn't proper but I know I would have loved to play (i even

tried to buy) pinball extreme. If anyone wants to give there key I'm

at:
[email protected]
We haven't heard anything from this company and

I'm sure we won't again unless someone buys the rights. I think that's

been done before hasn't it? I can't quite... uh... Yeah it has!
bb

2005-10-13 18:27:02

The

vultures are starting to circle...

It's barely been any time in the real

world since the news about Adora. At least give them more time.

Oh, and

they *will* know you're doing this if you keep talking about it on this

forum. Use a bit of common sense.

cx2
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To live by honour and to honour life, these are our greatest strengths and our best hopes.

2005-10-13 23:03:23

This is one of the reasons people should purchase something they want, for

there is no guarantee that it will be available in the future.

An

example: Disney Corporation releases videos for a limited time and after

that they are unavailable. It is not legal, moral, or ethical to pirate a

Disney Video simply because it is unavailable for purchase.

2005-10-13 23:22:34

I don't know what to think now...

I've got all the games, and I

have no inclination to give out the keys. The company is gonna hopefully

stay up. I don't want anyone to start cracking just because adora isn't

functioning.

Discord: clemchowder633

2005-10-13 23:39:14

Hey,

are you still able to buy from Adora? What happens if you try?

Regards,
Mike
Co-Founder, RS Games
www.rsgames.org

2005-10-14 00:02:31

You idiot Mike. You can't buy from them anymore. I got them before

they went on hiatus.

Discord: clemchowder633

2005-10-14 00:09:11

Just

wanted to make it clear, I was in no way trying to say that I wanted a

cracked version/key to MB. Only saying that I want a chance to play it in

its entirety. Whether that comes in the form of abandonware later down the

road, or having to buy it if/when Adora's back on its feet, I don't

care.
I shamefully admit to having played a cracked game or two in the

past, but I felt bad about it and don't think I'd ever do it again.

Check out my Manamon text walkthrough at the following link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z8ls3rc3f4mkb … n.txt?dl=1

2005-10-14 00:26:04

Totally agreed. I had *once* played a cracked version of troop 2 I

think it was. I uninstalled it immediately, and never cracked another of

BSC's games. I haven't played cracked games for awhile, but some people

seem to like sending keys around to each other, and it so happens I got the

keys for a few of the adora games. Not that I used them, but I stillh h

them.

p.s. Sorry for the braille contraction for have in the last line. I

am also doing homework on my pac mate which has a braille keyboard.

Discord: clemchowder633

2005-10-14 01:32:51

I

can assure you that had funds been available I'd have purchased Alien

Outback. Unfortunately at the last time the company was still up I didn't

have  the funds. I also was at school so I couldn't have installed in on

any computers (my personal one was and is still dead), so I lost my

opportunity. Unfortunately the demo I had on the computer I'm using had

expired long before I returned home, by which time Adora was---well I don't

wanna say dead, but it's whatever it is. So what happens if the games

become abandonware? That's not a term with which I'm familiar. Do they

just remove the demo limitations?

But wait, what's that? A transport! Saved am I! Hark, over here! Hey nonny non, please help!

2005-10-14 01:58:03

Legally there is no such thing as abandonware. The ownership of a work does

not expire because an individual or company ceases to produce or support

that work. The rights of ownership are still held by the indivudual or

company. While it is likely that an individual or company that has

"abandoned" a work will not seek damages for copyright violations, they may

still do so. Statutory damages are hefty. For more information:

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html

2005-10-14 03:00:03

assault_freak wrote:

You idiot Mike. You can't buy from them anymore. I

got them before they went on hiatus.

Don't call me that. I was

just wondering.

Regards,
Mike
Co-Founder, RS Games
www.rsgames.org

2005-10-14 07:02:21

well,

how about emailing adora instead of asking on the forum? adora do not come

on the forum so noone actually knows the answer. it will be probably no, but

except they're gonna release the games as abandonware.

2005-10-14 07:22:09

That's if they even reply to you. I wrote to them at the first opportunity

and have heard nothing since, well over a month ago. So I'm guessing no.

But wait, what's that? A transport! Saved am I! Hark, over here! Hey nonny non, please help!

2005-10-14 07:22:53

I'll tell you what happens. I didn't look at the news section on the

frontpage of adora (I guess I'm the idiot) so I purchased pbx and waited,

waited, checked email, waited, checked website, waited, and nothing. My

order is still pending and no one has responded to my emails. So hopefully

you can see why I'm just a little frustrated and am jsut plainly asking for

a key. I didn't have very much time to buy this game so it's not like AOB

or anything.
bb

2005-10-14 07:40:29

Guess we're left in the dust until such time as we hear differently.
 

And Bavisoft, I'm jost going to point out that even once Disney Corporation

makes their videos unavailable you can still find nonpirated copies if you

know where to look. Places like Amazon.com often carry used copies. Granted

I don't know if that's truly legal but still...I just thought I'd mention

it. Of course the situation is different here. You're not likely to find

Alien Outback on Amazon.com, or if you do it'll be something totally

different (hehh hehh).

But wait, what's that? A transport! Saved am I! Hark, over here! Hey nonny non, please help!

2005-10-14 11:47:23

BryanP, you are exactly correct re:used copies. It is perfectly legal if

the original license allows for the transfer of the user license which

videos usually do. What would not be legal is keeping a copy for yourself

and reselling the original to someone else.

2005-10-14 16:01:32

I'm a

little cheesed off because I only just found the demos for pinball and ten

pin alley, then within a week or two Adora went... whatever.

I strongly

suspect there isn't even anyone checking email there anymore.

cx2
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To live by honour and to honour life, these are our greatest strengths and our best hopes.

2005-10-14 17:05:49

well,
if you'd have red my post in "all you guys" ,I sed that there are

some good people on this forum,this topic demonstrated it!
my hart chears

when I read this topic, particularly your post jade
thanks
best regards to

all
yakir arbib

2005-10-14 20:07:07

Oh

yeah. I was hacked off. I'd just played Alien Outback for the first time

and Adora decides to go on permanent vacation or whatever. Let's hope

somebody buys the company!

But wait, what's that? A transport! Saved am I! Hark, over here! Hey nonny non, please help!