2018-06-17 12:14:14 (edited by braille0109 2018-06-17 12:16:32)

a few things. first things first, windows 10, unless you're on 3rd gen intel or older, you will not have second screen ability. this also applies if you're on NVIDIA graphics card. if you have light perception, I honestly feel sorry for you guys in advanced. sadly, can't comment on AMD.
secondly, if you're on win10 home, unless you tweek it, no group policy, therefore, no control over drivers and updates.
yes, as long as your hardware was registered on the windows 10 activation server, whether that be a clean install or otherwise, your OEM KEY will be detected. even if you wipe off every single partition that ever existed from your hard drive.
now, let me add some rather contrivertial opinion into the mix. don't use classic start menu. if you ever have to use a PC without it, or if the program is ever killed off, you may struggle using the regular menu. I understand that people don't like it, but please, learn how to use it, to avoid from being in the deep water.
I'm currently on windows 7 and 8.1 respectively, have 2 world war surviver laptops over here, and I'm honestly not sure what I will do in 2020. putting the win7 to 10 isn't an option, the fan can't keep the CPU cool enough, and we're talking of CPU temperatures in the 90s.
disabling UAC. I'd consider disabling it a bad idea, period. if one is using a standard account, I guess this isn't really a big issue. pressing alt-y periodically won't hurt anyone, and I'd rather do that, than some random bullshit getting installed. even if I'm installing something, that thing could then install something else in the background. that's just all sorts of no no.
as for NVDA and JAWS reading the UAC prompt, NVDA is faster, but both screen readers read it equally. I'm an NVDA user, so I'd have to say NVDA reads it in more detail, only because I never wait for JAWS to fully read it. if I have random EXE files in downloads, the UAC prompt can also be used for that as well.
as for JAWS support and win10, last I played with JAWS, which, I can't go into as to why I can no longer do it due to forum policy, the last 3 or 4 2018 updates have caught up. at least noticeably! better than it used to be.

2018-06-17 13:07:59

Seems the zoom is going to have limited use as an interface after all. Up to now I hadn't needed to monitor the input, but now I have, the latency is unusable. As I'm only planning on using it for acoustic guitars, I might be able to get away with direct monitoring, but it's not looking good. Every time you turn around to stop something biting you on the ass, something else sneaks up and knees you in the balls.

2018-06-18 15:53:29

I think this is worth applying for blind users of windows 8 and above.
http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-c … manager-v3
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2018-06-18 18:58:13

So the issue with NVDA not reading the UAC dialog was fixed, then? Because I know for a fact that a couple months ago, it didn't, and it was a known issue. I think it had something to do with it being set at 66% or below. If it was, then to each their own I suppose, but I haven't gotten a legitimate virus that destroyed my computer in many, many years. With UAC disabled on both Windows 7 and 10, I never ran into a problem. I've had the odd bad download here and there, a scan or two which actually turned up things that weren't false positives, but nothing that couldn't be removed with a combination of an antivirus, whether that was Windows Defender, Clamwin, Sophos, to name a few I've used in recent memory, and another cleaner such as Malware Bytes and/or AdwCleaner. I would tend to agree that less advanced users probably shouldn't be running their PC's without UAC, never mind using an administrative account, but it's equally wrong to say that UAC prevents all incidences of infection, because that's stupid and inaccurate.

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2018-06-18 19:47:16

Indeed, UAC can be bypassed. Not sure how its done though. @53, sorry, not going to mess with CPU-based stuff. I'm not that curious.

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2018-06-18 20:36:48

Yeah that stuff has the potential to make your system unstable, lol no.

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2018-06-19 13:35:42

This permission shit is really starting to piss me off. I wanted to change the win 10 sounds. When I arrow down something and come to the end of the line, or try to enter any area I can't, I want a hard beep, not a soft fluttery little tune. All the win 10 sounds are like that. I want beeps and doo doops not fluffy cloud fucking jingles. So I had a look in the media folders on 10 and 7 and found all the wavs have the same names, so I thought I'll just copy them over. Could I fuck do it. Access denied. Clicked continue with admin, and just kept getting a retry dialog. Tried changing permissions but just got errors. Would it fuck let me change those wav files. Then I tried copying them into one of the other empty folders in media, like the one called afternoon, and it let me copy them no problem. So then I just copied the left over ones for win 10, change the theme to afternoon, and bingo, it worked. But the whole process pissed me off. I don't give a shit about security at this level. I've never had a problem. If my PC goes to shit because of a virus, I'll sort it out. I'd rather have full access to my own PC than this nannying shit.

2018-06-19 14:13:45

Man, that's Microsoft. You buy our products, but you can't change things easily. We'll control your PC for you. smile

2018-06-19 14:37:31

I can't help wondering if MS is protecting its files from the user rather than hackers. Especially with all this invasive crap they have now that probably doesn't get truly disabled when you untick a box. It used to be easy to screw over MS in some way by just deleting a file, but an ordinary user would have to battle that permission shit to do that now.

2018-06-19 16:20:25

They are doing it because you guys will let them get away with it. Look at how I was treated just because I posted something that someone else wrote. You can lead a horse to water... Abstract reason why I don't think reading books means you get everything automatically. Guess you guys would avoid Winaero tweaker, then? Gets rid of all the telemetry crap.

2018-06-19 19:07:59 (edited by Ethin 2018-06-19 19:10:12)

@57, have you [ever] considered, you know, going into control panel->sound->sound schemes and actually changing things from there? Oh sure its slow but clearly windows doesn't like you fucking around in that directory. I think the reason you get all those permission denied errors in c:\windows (and the directories therein) is purely because Microsoft just [might] be protecting those files from users and from viruses, since its viruses love hiding in there because of the huge number of 20000 plus files, and there are those dumb users out there who will go exploring and fucking around and end up screwing themselves over. Plus, if its possible to embed viruses and malware in images, then surely its possible to embed viruses into audio files too...

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2018-06-19 20:00:18 (edited by flackers 2018-06-19 20:37:16)

Of course I considered it, it was the first thing I did. I did mention that in an earlier post that you mustn't have read. I didn't just jump straight to the source of the files, having to physically copy in wav files was what I had to do to get the kind of soundsscheme I wanted. The thing is, it's my PC, if I want to fuck it up, that's my responsibility. I'm not a super user but I'm not an idiot either, I know copying a wav file isn't going to break anything except possibly a sound effect. Asking me if I'm sure is one thing, but barring me from my own posessions is another.

2018-06-19 20:38:10

its the way of things bro, osx and linux do the same thing.

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2018-06-19 23:02:42

I think there's a bit of confusion here. When I talk about disabling UAC, if you do it either through the security policy editor manually, or using Winaero Tweaker, all that annoying permission stuff goes bye bye. Setting it to 0% alone does not do what it did in Windows 7. It doesn't get fully disabled that way.

I also agree with the sentiment that, if you're modifying files in the Windows or Program Files directories, there's probably a reason for that. The average user who doesn't know a thing about computers except that Google exists and is helpful to them, is not poking around where they shouldn't be. They're more likely to destroy things in other ways, such as falling for spam emails, clicking on those flashy "you've won 17 laptops and a trip to the Caribbean!" ads, and/or enticing porn. Those kinds of things can do far more damage to someone's computer whether they have UAC enabled or not, than those of us who know what we're doing and simply want to customize a thing or two. So, no, I don't agree with Microsoft's hand-holding here. As long as you're not taking a sledgehammer approach, such as taking ownership of your entire Windows folder out of sheer frustration, you'll be fine. yeah, viruses will implant themselves in said directories, but Windows isn't exactly known for its wonderful track record at sandboxing.

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2018-06-20 00:26:57

True, Wwhen I got my first home pc about 15 years ago, I would have shit my pants at the thought of pissing about in the program files. And the same goes for the registry. But as time went on, and I used my pc for more involved stuff, I had to make those kinds of alterations, and you don't learn to ride a bike by never being allowed near one for fear you'll hurt yourself.

2018-06-20 03:34:06

One thing I find helpful in these kinds of situations is the take ownership registry hack from How-To Geek. This adds an item called take ownership to the right click menu for files and folders, which will allow you to take ownership of a system file and modify it as you wish. You can download it here.

Oh no! Somebody released the h key! Everybody run and hide!

2018-06-20 12:14:56

Oh yeah, I have that thing in a folder on my external HD. Cheers.

2018-06-21 11:38:03

I thought setting UAC to 34% had issues with JAWS as well? I'm pretty sure NVDA has issues with it, but 67 and 100 work just fine. as for the sounds, when I tried copying things into the media folder on win10, in the sub folders, for me, they didn't then show up as skemes. wonder what I did wrong there?

2018-06-21 11:46:54 (edited by flackers 2018-06-21 11:50:32)

Apologies if this is a dumb question, but Did the sounds you copied all definitely have the same filenames as the windows default wav files? I just copied all the win 7 stuff into the empty afternoon folder, but they all had the same names as the win 10 equivalents, it's just win 10 had a few extra ones, so I copied all the win 10 ones into the afternoon folder, then skipped the duplicates, so I ended up with mostly win 7 sounds with a few win 10 extras. And afternoon was still in the list of sound schemes afterward. The only other thing I can think is that maybe the sounds you copied had a bit depth or sample rate that was different or something. Are they sounds you've got from somewhere other than another windows sound scheme?

2018-06-24 20:56:14

I just extracted the windows 7 sounds zip file, and copied the 15 folders.