2018-05-30 01:29:00

So this question was braught on by a poster to my other topic and it got me thinking.
I would like to know why most of the visitors to this site are males? I would like to know what the girls in the blind world are doing that we aren't?
Please no flame war pleas.

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2018-05-30 22:42:27 (edited by Mayana 2018-05-30 22:45:09)

Well, I guess I should chime in. It's hard to say what I'm doing what you aren't, since that would require me to annalize your life and compare it to mine. smile As far as audiogames go, I don't think I'm that different, I enjoy shooting and stabbing things as much as you do. I can't keep interest in one game for too long, so I drop most multi-player games after a month or so, but I doubt that has much to do with my gender. I'm not as active on the forum mainly because most of the time, I don't have anything to post or, in a few rare cases, just don't wish to. I usually just check the forum about twice a week to see if there's anything interesting. In rl, I attend an economics secondary school, procrastinate on the internet, take care of my animals, read a lot, play games, and I study every day ... at least once a week ... um, sometimes. I'm normal, just like you! smile
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2018-05-31 02:14:27

I'll probably catch hell for saying this, but I don't think the Blindfold games are disregarded on this site because they are too easy. Rather, it's because of their restrictive nature. You need to make in-app purchases for just about every one of them to make them remotely enjoyable. While you can claim that this is just how things are nowadays, that most games have this requirement, I object to the title of the company in that case. I don't think enforcing strict limits on how many times a game can be played is kid friendly in the slightest.

In any case, I'm a woman, and I play audio games. I enjoy FPS's, side scrollers, and card games mostly, but I try to keep an open mind. However, gamer culture in general is often seen as male dominated, and I suppose this is no different. Then again, I've been told that some of my preferences, from listening to rock music to eating beef jerky, are things that only guys do, so I'm kind of used to being told that I'm not normal. So my opinion might be worth a grain of salt.

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2018-06-04 12:02:58

I still personally tend to hold to what I said in This topic

Namely that while casual gamers tend to be male owing to socialisation, market appeal and all those wonderfully silly things, true gamers, the people with a wide variety of interests who get deep into games tend to be an even spread.

Most female gamers I've encountred have been one of two polar oposite types Either A, social or occasional arcade gamers, or B, really hard core game nuts just like me, other than well being female big_smile.

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Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
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2018-06-04 12:50:26

Yeah, Blindfold games is doing nothing but giving our community a black eye, or a black mark in every one else's book. The whole fuss they kicked up about organizing their games into one comprehensive app was just childish and immature, and apple caved. I hate the extreme leftist view of Silicon Valley. Just because we're blind, doesn't mean you have to cave to all of our demands, hello NFB/AFB. How much time would it have taken the dude, hundreds of thousands of hours, was he high when he wrote that? And if you think about it, Apple's position on that policy would actually help blind people by cutting down on clutter, let's say you put something in the search that somehow turned up blindfold games, you'd be flicking right hearing blind blind blindfold blindfold blindfold blindfold blindfold blindfold, etc. You'd probably have to go back and refine your search, whereas, in other circumstances, if the games were bundled in one app, that's just one thing you have to get past. But the liberals are so quote, accepting, end quote, that they just cave to any social injustice, or perceived instance of same. Oh, but you know what, you'd better say what they say, do what they do, or think how they think, or you'll not be accepted into their little club, and maybe in the future, you'll be charged with, "wrong thinking". Oh, and I'm not so sure I want to live in a large city where people take their dogs around in strollers, refer to them as, "My son", or "My daughter", take them where they have no business going, supermarkets, restaurants, movie theaters, etc. And by the way, I'm not referring to guide dogs or other service animals, I'm referring to pets. Look it up if you don't believe me, there's more of it than you want to see, believe me, its an epidemic of millennials getting dogs, treating them like children, and then not having any, well maybe that's a good thing because I'm not sure I'm wanting your genetic material disseminated any further than it has to be. Oh, and I swear to god if I ever lived in an apartment building where a dog pissed in the elevator, or I stepped in dog shit because people's dogs shat on the path or something, I'd shit in a god damned paper envelope and slide it under their door, fuck you.

Um, I'm a little bit passionate about this stuff, sorry, I got a little outta control.

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2018-06-04 13:19:15

Mmm, ironcross, firstly what exactly does any of that have to do with gender really?

Even for casual gamers blindfold games aren't the be all and end all on the Iphone, not with Rs games, Lost cities, fruitpot, dice world and probably a hole bunch more I'm forgetting.

Secondly, as regards the blindfold games themselves, they actually have some pretty good titles. While I don't like all their design  decisions, EG their pay to play model and their habbit of having setable difficulties rather than progressive increases in challenge, some stuff I've played, in particular their arcade titles like pong and breakout have been pretty cool for the way the technology is used, and I enjoy some of their card games when I want something to keep my brain ticking over on a long journey, indeed the only reason they haven't all got db pages right  now is simply due to time on my part and the amount of them available, but that will hopefully be rectified in the future.

Again, Blindfold games I just tend to view like most other things, good points and bad points as per usual.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2018-06-04 14:11:06

I guess it doesn't.

One thing I see a lot is Twitch  streamers who are women and I'm like whoa, because they're like swearing worse than some of the guy streamers and its kinda weird to me. its really weird when the cute voiced ones do it, not so much the more boisterous ones with forceful personalities, that go together. It was always weird to me that a girl would pick up a game controller and start playing. I don't know why, but its not that way with all women for me at least, just certain ones. It's down to preconceived notions which are usually a bad thing and I'm working on trying to stop myself from doing that. Generally if a chick is acting more like a dude, like she is loud, swears a lot, drinks beer, eats chips, and stuff; like all of that goes together to form a general notion of that person. And I don't mean that this type of person never acts feminine, and being more feminine doesn't exclude you, its just certain types of people that play games that I really don't expect and its weird to me. Like you wouldn't expect the girly girls to pick up a controller and start playing COD, but they do, that's the crux of it for me. And they're streaming and they're all bubbly and cheerful and welcoming every new follower or sub and stuff like that and then they pop around a corner and start blasting and laughing, swearing etc. It's weird to me when people act outside the sort of personality profile I built for them.

I do that a lot actually, I sort of form a mental dossier of someone upon meeting them. Within 5 seconds, I know a lot about them, not obviously like personal things, but just general stuff. As I get to know them more, that dossier fills up, and a sort of picture forms, and yeah, if people act in a way that's not normal based on the information I have on them, that's weird. I wouldn't think its weird if a reckless person acts recklessly, but if a normally confident and decisive person seems downcast, insecure, and has trouble making decisions, I'd notice it right away. Maybe that's why I'm so socially inept, because I tend to see through a lot of people's bullshit.

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2018-06-04 17:13:39

the only game I had fun with was blind fold song. only to piss off friends, they all died at around 4000 points. then I tweeted my score of 11000. didn't touch the thing since. post 8, that's actually interesting. I, too, have an imaginative picture of people in my mind, and I'm rather good at predicting people, which is probably why I pretty much don't trust no one these days. I'd be really curious to know what you think of me, privately, of course. I have a few friends that, while they don't drink and stuff, they're pretty chearful, play games, and all that shit. they're pretty rare, as you've said as well, but they certainly exist. least I know of one. though I'm sure there are more.

2018-06-04 18:10:27

Lol Ironcross, it sounds I'm afraid more that you are making assumptions based on preconceived notions which aren't' necessarily true. Maybe you grew up in a more gender polarised part of the world than I did (I do know the states generally tends to be a little more traditional in Gender rolls than the Uk particularly in some places).

For my part, I used  to do tabletop rp with three couples, I have a female friend who is a black belt in karate, does krav maga and discusses blood eagling over breakfast, I also have straight male friends who love children and animals and openly talk about their feelings, as well as friends who are singers and stage performers, as I am myself.

My lady is also a girl with a pretty voice who swears, has an occasionally earthy sense of humour (in some senses more earthy than mine), reads scifi, loves horror and has a morbid streak despite being tiny and very gentle, so hay.

Ironically, I've always found myself that people who rigidly adhere to stereotypes tend to get on my wick since as they have such a limited outlook its difficult for me to actually find much in common with them.

so as usual we come back to that famous old maxim, all generalisations are wrong ;D.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2018-06-04 18:16:57

It's hard to eliminate that kind of thinking though, I try to tamp it down, but I'm a creature of habit and when I've done something for so long, it's really hard for me to change it.

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2018-06-04 22:26:38

Well, in this case perhaps it is something to think about since it tends to be those generalisations and snap judgements people make based on often erroneous stereotypes that do a great deal of harm, heck if your a blind person you'll have certainly experienced this yourself and in gender terms there is a lot of harm done by both stereotypes.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2018-06-05 01:09:05 (edited by flackers 2018-06-05 01:10:33)

I think the media plays a significant part when it comes to stereotyping. If we have little to no real world experience of a certain group, the single individual, or few examples shown in the media, make up the majority of our view of that group, and so that becomes our entire view. And the media isn't interested in ordinary decent rather dull events, it likes irritants, things that will provoke an emotional response because they're in the business of stimulus. Like in my personal case, I'm from Merseyside, and although I'm not from Liverpool, I have what most people in the rest of the country would call a scouse accent. So whenever I've spent any time in other parts of the country, I constantly have to listen to joky remarks about my being a thief. The thing is Liverpool is no more criminal than any other major British metropolis. But it's been saddled with that stereotype, and I have to suffer being thought of as a dole-scrounging, shell-suit-wearing car thief. And the vast majority of the people who think like this have never set foot on Merseyside. And even if they do, they often do so with a preformed idea of the place, and so confirmation bias can play a part in bolstering their prejudice. I've come to the conclusion it's just the way our brains work. We like simple stereotypes because it makes mental filing easier. Like people who've grown up surrounded by white people, when they see a black person, all they need to remember is that they are black, that's what defines them. So you have the 'all black people look alike' phenomenon. And how many miscarriages of justice must that have lead to.

2018-06-05 01:51:19

It probably stems from our need to label and order everything. If something is in a state of chaos, we try to bring order to it, we try to create and arrange data to understand it, to categorize and organize it. I do feel it is damaging though. Stereotypes that seem to contain a positive message like some group of people are better at one type of thing, are just as damaging as the negative ones. It seems like we rely on stereotypes when we have either insufficient data, so we use that over generalized and even false information to fill in the gaps, or in ignorance, to bolster our prejudices. We just have to put things in buckets, or our minds can't cope. Hanging info just won't do, so we start cramming things in wherever they will fit. But it doesn't fit, because people don't fit in a one size fits all containers, they're more complex than that. So we now have entire cultures marked down, and expect all of the people who are of that culture to exhibit all these behaviors, looking a certain way etc.

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