Touchwiz is annoying, samsung voice ssistant is about stupid. If you use android on a Samsung device, do yourself a favor and switch to talkback. Android has a lot of power and flexibility for those who want to wield it, but you have to almost feel like your carrier is screwing you because they don't release updates for ages. I don't stand for that, so root it is, and then I get them because I go and download, and flash them. That's a bit much for someone who has no inclination, but may be missing out of features because of that fact, so its not really a win win. I use iPhone because they have the user experience nailed. You don't have to ever mess around to get something to work. If an app crashes, its usually a one time thing, or a very specific thing that triggers it, in which case you try to get in contact with the devs. iPhone feels more like a tool to help you get things done, whereas android feels like a sports car, fun to rip around the track, but you're always having to work on it. Does it bother me that Apple are so closed off? Sure, but part of that is to help with quality control. Do I wish they would let third party devs use the NFC functionality, well yeah. You never get these domino effect cascading crashloops in iOS like you can get in android where the whole app stack just goes bye bye.

I probably would have been happier with Android and I kind of wish I gave it the time to check out. I picked IOS because my friends had it and could help me with Voiceover and to me it seemed like there were more sources out there. I am thinking about looking at Android when it comes time for me to get a new phone. The only thing that would hold me back from switching would be the amount of apps I brought.

Yeah I've never had any problem with the fingerprint thing, though I'm pretty sure I've seen other moto G users saying that as well so that's strange. I believe with copying you can set that as a shortcut, though honestly that features always seemed a bit limiting as there's only so many gestures available. That's not necessarily a fault of Talkback though, Android is entirely based on using 1 finger. I don't know how, but Talkbacks able to get around it by making 2 fingers count as 1, or something. Maybe someone with more in depth API knowledge can explain that.

I would be interested to try out android, but what has always prevented me is available aps etc for it, there are always new games coming out for Ios, but Android they are much slower, and that is not counting other aps like blind square, aside from the crashing problems mentioned.
I'd love to have a play with an android system just for interests's sake but I don't really feel its a viable alternative to Ios, at least for me, though whether google assistant will change this I don't know, since yes, while Siri is okay for making phone calls and the odd bit of dictation, it is rather annoying that its functionality now is pretty much the same as it was when I got my Iphone 5 in 2012.

The one major downer for me on Ios is the hole iTunes thing since noo as you said Cj I am not going to retag all my files and ignore the folder structure that I've been using for nearly 20 years because iTunes is stupid.
I actually think that this is deliberate on Apple's part, or at least semi deliberate, since manifestly they want you to only be listening to stuff you've bought through the almighty Apple on your phone,  its problematic compability with anything else.
This is quite aside from the fact that iTunes is a bloated sprawlling mess with the trees of doom and no sensible way of cataloguing its waaaaaay too many functions.

I tried to get iTunes to work for me for two years back in 12-14, then I said "to hell with it!" and bought a victor stream, which is my  device for audiobooks and music, while my Iphone exists for games and aps and phony contacty things.

As to the Iphone 8, I will agree having bought an 8 myself that it is quite annoying that the main function it has is mmmmm, not hanging as much as the Iphone 5, that and forcing me to  use an adapter everytime I want to use my earbuds.

That being said I do like the haptic home button for coolness factor and its interesting that aps that heavily rely on  such as blackbox have made use of some of the Iphone 8's extra capacities, whether of course this will continue and someone will do something cool with the increased gyro, facial recognition, finger scanning  etc I'm not sure but at least the option is there, though I will say I was profoundly amused when I bought my Iphone 8 at christmas when Apple attempted to sell me an Iphone x on the basis of its really good facial recognition, when I pointed out "hay I'm visually impared" there was this rather uncomfortable silence followed by "so the 8 will be good for you then?" .

the other reason I bought an 8 was because of galileo, since damnit I want that one meter satnav! .

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But don't you have a pincode set, to secure your phone? And if yes, how do you enter it without Talkback? I mean, I assume, the pin pops up, before the phone has finished booting. At least, that's what the settings say, when I try to set a pin.
Regarding the fingerprint, my Moto G5 wouldn't even let me set one. Everytime I try, it says that I either have to add a pin or a draw sample as an aditional security measure. I don't know, what the draw sample is called exactly in english. That alone wouldn't be a problem. But I am just concerned, how I am supposed to do that, if I ever have to restart my phone...

@the player,, I don't know the exact wording, but the phone definiely finishes booting before needing you to enter the pin. Talkback is already started by the time you need to do that, and yes, I have a pin code set. The fingerprint, just like on the iphone, isn't usable unless you have a pass code set already. I have both set and it works fine, and you have to unlock your phone using the pin in any case every time you restart your phone before you can use the fingerprint censor. Your pin is only required after Talkback starts, and the phone has already booted... what your phone is telling you is that yu need to unlock it before you can have access to the rest of the phone. The pin does not show up mid boot.

I've got a Motorola XT1586 or so (can't remember the exact model number). So far its worked great for me. Ever since I switched to Android I've never touched iTunes. I can deal with the slower releases of android; I'm not going to buy an iPhone and allow myself to be ruled by a company who only cares about itself, its income, and about forcing users who are unwilling to upgrade to the latest devices to upgrade to those latest devices or suffer the consequences, mainly the throttling of device resources (and yes, this is intentional, because you can do this on Android -- run old versions on old phones, or run new versions on old phones, and you don't get throttled either way) and forcing people to practically go into debt because of it. That kind of behavior is crossing the line of civil behavior, and I certainly won't tolerate it. Go android!

ok time to put my 2 pence worth in.

If we are going to use a car analogy Android would be a Kit Car and IOS would be a Rolls Royce.

Now from my personal experience,

I started with an iPhone 4 s and even though I thought it was amazing iTunes stressed me out to such a degree I then went and bought a Motorola g4, due to the price and great reviews it got.

first thing that struck me was the lack of accessible aps, then I could not get used to talk backs gesture system, it was just not intuitive enough for me. 

the only thing therefor I thought it had 1 over apple was the drag and drop mp3 compacity straight and easy from the pc.

but then this amazing ap was created on the iPhone called voice dream, which has made iTunes obsolete along with the daisy player, all my books, games and music in 1 device, awesome.

now I agree apple is expensive compared to Motorola, but like my wife said, you are blind, treat yourself to the best device out there, you bought me a car have something nice for yourself, and rather trying to save the odd few pound I bought the iPhone 7.

voice dream is the best ap ever created in my opinion and even VLC media player is great as a free alternative.

So I would say if money is tight try Android but if you can afford it, I am sorry apple is the far greater user experience.

@ironcross, I'm not sure what issues you've been having because Voice assistant is currently my daily driver, not Talkback, and it works beautifully. And Android's user experience is as good as the user makes it, which is good or bad, I suppose, depending on the user. If you just want a nailed user experience out of the box, then Apple is for you. But if you're willing to put in the work and tinker, Android is fantastic.

I think IOS is actually good because of voice over. I know that android has more speech and stuff, but I've heard it's a bit more difficult to use. I've never tried it though so don't get me wrong. lol.

@the player, that's weird... because talkback should be on if you left it on when turning it off. Take it into your carier an see what they can do to help you... my moto g5 plus works perfectly well with a pin and fingerprint set up.

Yes this is strange, pin is perfectly accessible.