I think we'd here soon enough, ---- either here or on the audeasy list if anything did come of the Agm. I'd really like to see the program properly finished and fulfilling it's promises, but unless there is a sudden burst of funding for the game accessiblity crew, I'm not sure if that will happen.

I suppose we'll have to pin our hopes upon Tom ward and genesis, ----- though on a personal level, I'm highly engaged with writing and some other fairly major things in my life at the moment, so even if Agm or genesis was available, unless there was a way for humans to function without sleep, I'm stil not sure what I'd get done, ---- stil, it would be nice just to try something, especially as I keep having game ideas.

I think I've finally worked out a solution as to how to do a multi level scrolling platformer like Metroid or turrican in audio, even counting enemies attacking from above or below, and then of course there's the audio prince of persia and audio marrio schema, but unfortunately with no access to software these might have to stay as ideas in my brain.

but see, when you start talking about making audio games, I would really like to see a first person, present-day, shooter  I am not aginst the development of other types of games like rpg's, but that's all many people want these days  in my opinion we need something different then an rpg or space arcade shooter  that's why I am hoping for that game from Liam that he mentioned previously

Well the reason people want RPGs is we don't have one vaguely interesting example. I admit our shooters are seriously behind the mainstream, but that is true of all genres really and we at least have some shooters. Audio Quake, Shades of Doom, Technoshock, possibly Terraformers but that is more a puzzle game in some ways I think... or would at least have been better as one.

Long term strategy games would be nice, something like Civilisation or Master of Orion maybe even something like Lords of the Realm 2. Something focused on winning the war not just the battle.

Conner,
We don't want a vidio game maker...

What do you think of AGM Brian? Since I'm a programmer I don't use it. I looked it a bit when it first came out but it seemed pretty complicated. Could that be why people aren't using it?

Has anyone of you at least tried civilization 2.
I keep playing it for hours. Although most of the parts of it are not very accessible, it's still one of the best games in the spot. I also contacted the developers of freecol and they seemed really excited of helping us, so download the newest source, compile the game and at least one of the features I suggested is there. A shortcut key for sending ships back to the new world. We just have to try things that are not ment for us. I think when we'd contact the deam of freeciv, they would help us also. They all are like the audacity project. If there is at least one person in their developer lists, who reads the mails we send, we have some hope.
Don't fear your wishes.
And try at least. I also wanted to be a programmer. I never actuelly got to this, but I still want and that's why I haven't given up the hopes yet.

why do you think they belong there?

So you just like to stay in your comfortable bubble of rpg's, side scrollers, and space shooters, what about inventing something that we haven't seen before

don't be so close-minded

I don't think it's unreasonable to want some game genres that are popular in the mainstream, but as I said in my last audeasy artical, i don't think the field of audio is being half as exploited as it should be, particularly in the matter of game ambience, and what is possible to hear and understand in the matter of game design.

I agree with Cx2 about the civ type game being a good idea. As to playing the mainstream version, ---- well personally i'd want some sort of way to overview my map and statistics in a game like that, rather than just working off the audio samples to react to events, ----- but then again, I'm a control freak, icemaster, is any of the game text actually accessible? or do you just work on the in game audio when events happen.

As to "Staying in a buble of rpgs 2d platformers etc" that's a trifle difficult as there aren't any yet. as I said, that's a trifle difficult sinse there aren't any as yet./ I only gave them as example sinse they would be genres of game we haven't got represented in audio, which probably should be, and which I personally can see a lot of potential and interest in.

there are several others. A decent real time football game, ---- and that's football as in Socker, for one (I had a design idea for this as well recently, even though i'm not a sports fan).

something in long term stratogy as Cx2 mentions, ---- though potentially I could see sound rts fulfilling part of this role if developement continues, partiularly in terms of much larger maps, better ai, more units, and events occurring betwene missions, ---- not to mention a decent story campeign mode (which is planned for next release I believe).

then, I'd love to see a propper! space combat game in 3D, similar to what flight commander was planned to be. A game where instead of moving from right to left, you actually have to fly your ship in 360 degrees like a plane, and have a varient of weapons and other systems to call on, ----- in fact, a complex flight game might be fun indeed (though sinse my best headphones have been on the blink and I haven't got to play 3D velosity yet, it's entirely possible we've already got one of these).

then, there's the matter of action/puzle games, the sorts of things where you move a character around a complex maze solving problems, or doing litle timing tasks, ---- similar to the bomberman or boulderdash games in the mainstream. I wasn't sure how these might turn out, but looking at aura, it's possible we'll get one soon.

then of course, there's the hole business of 2D, 2.5D, or 3D beat em ups in the one on one style, which covers a huuuuuuuuge range of games, fighting styles, interesting ideas about keyboard in put and moves, ----- not to mention the potential for great story and setting.

there are probably others people can come up with which I've missed. just to prove that rpg's aren't our only focus. Hmmmmm, maybe there's another artical for audeasy in this somewhere?

so, first person 3d action game is not greatly appreciated?..
as i am developing the engine, i must know how kind of examples and games people want.

Remember the world is made up of different people who want different types of game, just like in the mainstream there are a huge variety of games. The trouble is we don't have enough developers, or enough new games coming out, to fill all the genres. Even in the mainstream developers have specialities, the trouble with audio games is equally this means there aren't enough devs who have the interest to develop all the genres.

I'll also point out there can be huge difference between two games of the same "genre", as anyone who has played both Top Speed 2 and Rail Racer can attest to.

I understand the problem with the little amount of developers, I am simply stating you should not rule that kind of game out, so what if they are a kind of video game
that's all,