2017-02-12 07:49:01

Hey people!
Do you happen to know of an audio-game similar to Aprone's Paw Prints???

To those who haven't played it, its a totally turn-based, "leading a group/team/party into safety" type strategy, where you give orders to your group-members every turn, trying to make them survive untill brought into safety, meaning reaching their final destination.

The game I search for must not obligatory have sheer survival as primary goal, it can be a fantasy-theme adventure game, like the HOMM series, (or like Wizardry 8, if anyone of you remembers it), sci-fi based like Ufo-Xcom, combat-based like the Jagged Alliance games, or even crime-planning like in Gangsters 1-2.

So the main genre, along with the final goal is irrelevant, as long there is a froup, team, or party for me to lead, to give commands to each its member each turn...since yeah, it sure has to be turn-based, and I mean truely turn-based, granting infinite time to plan your next move, meanind your actions, orders, options, settings, etc.

Ok, I know I am a bit of an old-fashioned gamer, and such totally turn-based strategies are getting obsolete, so I would even welcome similar games with movement-phase inreal time, BUT at least battles or encounters MUST be TRUELY turn based in it, no excuse, LOL!!!

Since the above described game genre and type was always my leading favorite one, I am eagerly and inpatiently waiting for your recommendations/suggestions!!!

Caccio
from Hungary

2017-02-12 10:32:54

Well Pawprints is indeed pretty unique,   though it's by no means the only game out there and you certainly have several other major options to choose from.

First off is entombed.
This is  a real landmark title for audiogames.
The game combines trotting through a preceedurally generated random dungeon, with turn based multi character battles.  Each character has two  jobs, and though you start off  with just the one character you'll rescue two others. That's aside from your pet wolf who fights with you, and other random  minians who might be on your side such as  necromancer's raised skeletons.
What is particularly noteworthy in Entombed is that  what characters you rescue is very random.
So, while you might start with a fairly  compitant half elf wizard, you might be unfortunate and rescue a Halfling barbarian. Fortunately, you can make that barbarian's second job something like Bard to take advantage of their quickness while not relying on their strength.
There is an extensive demo where you can play the first 8 flaws,  and have a choice of six starting races and 11 jobs, though in the main version their are 18 jobs and 13 races.

Then, there is manamon. I'm not exactly sure if this is what your looking for, since Manamon is in some ways a  single player game, however since your playing a manamon tamer who wanders around with a party of multiple monsters, battles definitely involve more than one character.  Battles  are turn based and oncemore, heavily strategical, in terms of what manamon you take into battle with you, how you train and equip them etc , indeed I haven't quite worked out all my manamon strategies myself big_smile.

Combine this with lots of equips, and lots of different training options, and you've got the recipe for masses of customization, perhaps even too much.
Again, a landmark title and one that is highly recommended.
Oh, and btw, story is much darker than pokemon if you were wondering big_smile.

That is as far as itgoes for   multi character games in actual audio, though it is worth noting that "heroe's call" currently in development will I think involve multiple characters and shoul really! rock.

In terms of browser games however, one you might want to look into is path to pelantas. This is sort of a  hybrid of sports  management, a little strategic building, and multiplayer rpg.
You are a lord with a team of heroes. bAttles can get reall complex here, because your heroes each have different positions and attacks, as well as strengths and weaknesses, and the strategy of the game involves how you set them up, as battles are  pretty automatic.
It's heavy on the pvp with you being required to fight matches against other players teams of heroes in the arena, although there are also options for questing, taxes and doing various other things as well.

Then, another title you might want to try is Silver sword for Ios.
This actually is an attempt at a game similar to what I believe wizardry was like for mobile  platforms.
You again have a party of characters, multiple attacks, wandering round a map, even inventory management for each person.
The only thing with Silver sword (and the reason it hasn't got a  database entry as yet), is that accessibility with voiceover has been rather ropy in the past.
For a start, it's taken quite some time for the developer to add a coordinates based movement system. Then,  though battles are turn based, text appears in real time and then disappears, which is rather odd.

I do know people have played it successfully, but how accessible it actually is I'm not %100 sure myself, as it's something I need to sit down with and spend some time working on.
There is a page about it on the applevis site here

Hth.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-13 00:04:14

If you don't mind using translation technology, there are several other options:

Brave of Cloudia is probably closest to what you're looking for, though it's only complete up to the last dungeon so far. There's still a couple of days worth of playable content. You control 8 characters at a time on a map and you can freely move each party member around the map each turn and attack enemies or find special features in the terrain. You can select from 19 different classes for your characters, each class can be raised to level 50 and each character has a max level of 100. There's a decent storyline, a lot of unique equipment and a lot of playable content.

There's also the turn-based RPGs from Morokuma, such as Alternative Magic, New Tia Story and Mazes of Dungeon. I believe most of these have database entries you can find on audiogames.net, so you can read about them there for the most part. They're all turn based, all involve a party, though now that I think about it Mazes of Dungeon has you controlling only one character. I could practically write a novel about each of these games but I'll leave you to research them for yourself.

If you need help setting up the translation technology, there is a guide on how to do so in the articles room.

There's also Tactical Battle, which has custom campaigns that let you level up, form parties and do other RPG-like things. The Age of Warlords map pack has a lot of these elements.

That's all that I can think of.

2017-02-13 01:06:49 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-13 03:35:30)

Thanks for your suggestions guys, I am already started with Manamon.
It is quite good, but since I am playing the free (deno?) version, I am still missing the real fun, which is usually granted to me by PvP, or eventually cooperation with real, alive people, instead of dumb AIs.

Hey Dark, I am glad you posted here too, since I have a question to you!

Namely I found an online browser game, which I am pretty much convinced I will like
, and it was you who wrote its detailed description at this site.

The game is called Monster Breeder, I like its theme and idea, and judging by your description, it features quite a lot of PvP action.

However, I have a "slight"...actually a very annoying problem with the registration procedure on its homepage:

I tried filling all required fields, (except the "preferred by" one, which can be left empty, according to its explanation at least), and I am definitely sure I silled all the reqiorements correctly almost each single time.

Still, after each registration try, the game reports some kind of error related with some so-called Mysql called issue, claiming I gave a different number from the required one. (for example 0 instead of 1, or 3 instead of 2)

So can you please tel me what the hell that stuff with Mysql and paraneters is about, and explain me how this issue is supposed to be solved???

EDIT:
The high randomness factor in Entombed sounds really inviting to me, it is making the game almost a "sandbox-type"one, which was always the kind of FRP-strategies I always preferred...
So it is the next game I am going to try out, already downloaded it, and it turns out to be really that good, I shall buy its full version in a few days for sure!
I just looove such non-linear, creative, and unpredictable games, so I just feel sorry PvP is probably not allowed in it,, even after buying and playing it online...bu I fure hope there will be at least some types of competitions instead! (as "PvP-replacement" I mean)

THX for its recommendation again!!!

2017-02-13 01:54:47

@david, most of the translation article is irrelevant now with ian read's jgt NVDA addon making translation a breeze. 
Which of these games have you tried and had success with?  I've yet to try out brave of cloudia, so should do that.

2017-02-13 06:07:17

Well Caccio, as far as monster breeder goes, unfortunately the game had awesome potential and was very unique but then development literally just stopped dead.
it was quite a shame really since the game was awesome.

I don't recall any registration troubles, but that was back in the day the game was being maintained, and I'm not sure what is happening with it now. I'd suggest you contact the developer.

Pvp in multi strategy audiogames isn't something we've got a lot of, but if you look at the world of online games you will probably find better efforts.
One game I forgot to mention for example, which definitely has pvp for those who want it is puppet nightmares.

Puppet nightmares is another creature based game like manamon or monster breeder  but with dark, gothic evil things  called soul puppets.
You have a team of three soul puppets and mostly fight other teams of three, either in pvp battles if you want, or  in dungeons.

What makes the game unique, is that each puppet has a full set of equip locations,  five special skills, six different elements, combat diciplins and  more! and of course your controlling a party of three, but  can collect a lot more, from standard types, to  breeding enemies, to limited edition puppets released  each month (though older ones are always available and occasionally rereleased).

I will say the game has a twisted, dark and in several places rather adult sense of humour, for example when you "breed" soul puppets you literally take them to a  brothel, but  in terms of it's mechanics, story and battles it's one I think you'd like provided you can get to navigating the  webpages okay.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-13 08:21:25 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-13 21:27:14)

Well, Entombed looks really cool, I like it more than Manamon even, somehow it has a more "serious", meaning groovy atmosphere and environment, which I usually prefer in during adventuring in a fantasy-world.
So far it looks lik my next targeted game for buying.

However, since it is still a bit expensive for my modest financial situatin, so before buying it, I would really like to know for sure, which actual advantages will I get with the full version?
I normally mean features, possibilities, options, and bonuses/extras, which were not mentioned in Dark's game-description, and primarily those related to online, multiplayer mode.
Like for example, which means of interaction and cooperation is avaailable betweem online-player during gameplay, possibilities of cooperative missions, quests, trade, gifting,exchanging, alliances/guilds to join,  cistom dungeon editing, competitions, tourhaments, rewards...

Btw what can I use gold in that game, except buying stuff from other players at the marketplace?
Does it have any other use or function at all in a dungeon-crawler type game, even while played online?

2017-02-13 08:37:05

Well in terms of online cooperation etc,  that's not really something Entombed involves.
The only real online feature is online  score posting and access to the  bizarre where you can post weapons for other players to buy.
As I said, if your looking for the hole guilds, pvp type of thing, your not going to find that in an audiogame, even Manamon's online features are clunky at best.

The main things you get for buying entombed is a huuuuuuge!  lot more game content for your single player game.
not just a much  larger dungeon with more creatures, but far more races and jobs, and since the jobs also affect your enemies and your own progress,  even the levels that exist in both the demo and full version are more interesting to play.

I will say I did  hear Jason was working on an Entombed ii with some of the major inequities in the first game fixed, eg, magic spells can miss, and there was a rank system planned to allow  fighters to take the brunt of damage while mages and weaker ranged combatants  were protected.
We've not heard anything about the development for a while but I wouldn't  be surprise if we do at some point in the future.

In the mean time,  I can heartily recommend  entombed.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-13 16:53:15

@DanC: Not sure why, but I had assumed the translation article would have incorporated JGT. Hopefully it will at some point since just setting up JGT doesn't help people find out about CoolSoft, and JGT still doesn't work properly with the casinos.

As to your question about which ones I've had success with, that would be everything available. I've completed all of the content of all the RPGs I can find, so I can confidently say they all work with pretty much any translation method.

2017-02-13 17:10:09

I played Monster Breeder for a while and can't really recommend it. The developer has stopped working on it years ago, and sadly it isn't really all that interesting. The travel and battles are boring and slow, and there's basicly no active players around.

Yes, I definitely left the forum. Mhm. Why would you have any doubt?
Code 7 tips: https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/4010 … or-code-7/
Don't forget to be awesome!

2017-02-13 21:51:57 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-13 21:57:09)

Well...larger dungeons, with a greater number of more diverse enemies, even adhusted to my developement-path...sounds nice enough I guess...and since I am so much fond of competitions, grabbing a place in the high-score list will even provide an additional challenge to me...so yes, I am determined to buy the game, even if that will end my game-purchase for this month.

As for PvP-oriented games, you guys are probably right, I should search for them primarily among browser-based MMO games...any suggestions/recommendations for such a game???
(meaning those playable with a screen-reader of course)

2017-02-14 07:09:29 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-14 08:26:27)

2 good news guys!!!

1. I sent an email to the developers of Monster Breeder about the registration problem, and they already replied, telling me how they fixed the issue.
And indeed, I finally managed to register, and am about to start learning the gameplay.
(I just hope I will like that game more than the person with the last comment about it, even if there are quite a few human players left in it)

2. I managed to find another interesting game I like very much, (this time all by myself, lol!), and this one is even free, all it required me to do was confirming my email-address.
The game is called Tactical Battle, it has dozens of maps, (each with more missions/quests), and it mostly fits my game-expectations.

So yeah, even as a blind man, I already found 9 (offline/online) games, of which I hope to provide me a longer time of entertainment!!!

So far,, my choices were: Swamp, Entombed, Manamon,  Altereon, Tactical Battle, Paw Prints, Dracor, Core Exile, and Monster Breeder.

2017-02-14 08:43:27

Hi Caccsio.

Glad your finding fun things to play, there is a lot out there. Tactical battle looked great at the inception, indeed it was mentioned in this topic, it's one of these games I need to investigate more.
As to monster Breeder, the game is now being updated with further development, and bug fixes, see This topic for details.

I think you'd also enjoy Puppet Puppet  nightmares that I mentioned earlier. You  can find out more through this database page

I'll have a think about other browser games.
the issue generally is that while many involve pvp, not many are party based, or have actual interesting combat mechanics, most tend to have automatic combat which is a little irritating. I'll have a think about other things to suggest, though as I said in the other thread, also note you can search in the database by genre, you'll find a lot of browser rpgs under mmorpgs.

You might also want to investigate more muds, since while Alteraeon is really great, it's certainly not all that is out there.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-14 17:01:33 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-14 17:29:56)

Dark wrote:

Hi Caccsio.

Glad your finding fun things to play, there is a lot out there. Tactical battle looked great at the inception, indeed it was mentioned in this topic, it's one of these games I need to investigate more.
As to monster Breeder, the game is now being updated with further development, and bug fixes, see This topic for details.

I think you'd also enjoy Puppet Puppet  nightmares that I mentioned earlier. You  can find out more through this database page

I'll have a think about other browser games.
the issue generally is that while many involve pvp, not many are party based, or have actual interesting combat mechanics, most tend to have automatic combat which is a little irritating. I'll have a think about other things to suggest, though as I said in the other thread, also note you can search in the database by genre, you'll find a lot of browser rpgs under mmorpgs.

You might also want to investigate more muds, since while Alteraeon is really great, it's certainly not all that is out there.

Ok, you convinced me about that Puppet-game, gonna try it out now, but I guess that will end my search for some time, after all there will already be 10 games I plan to get the grip of, and play on a regular basis, while also planning to actually advance, scire achievements and (hopefully) successes in them...
In fact, that is already more games than I used to regularily gocus on before my vision-loss!

However, in case you guys happen to know, or find out about a good-quality-PvP oriented MMO browser game, please still do let me know, since those are still missing from my current "chosen-game" collection!

Oh, I just read...Puppet Nightmare DOES feature PvP, and accordingly an interesting, more complex one even...

2017-02-14 17:40:23

@david,
I forgot about the slot machines, though I do use clipboard to sapi for those.
Still, jgt along with that is a far easier process than before.  I haven't had much luck with the slotts yet though.
As to the games themselves, after a while, the main parts of the storyline are kind of like deciphering some kind of Yoda speak. 
Though I did have a puzzle in one of them where I had to use the resource here on one of the forum topics to solve, as I couldn't make head or tail of what it wanted.
I do love these games though and would love to talk about them in more depth

2017-02-14 17:49:30

Yep, pvp in puppet nightmares certainly, although only for those who wish.

What is particularly cool, is there is the automatic kind of pvp, where you battle people who are offline, but you can also have online battles with people, which works a little like a turn based  game, with you choosing your puppet's actions and hitting submit and the other person having to respond.
So long as you choose a reasonably long turn interval to give you time to decide what your doing it can work very well, and that's from someone who really doesn't enjoy pvp much big_smile.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-14 19:58:58

@Caccio72, welcome to the forum.
It sounds like you found some good games, and I'm glad Tactical Battle was among them.
You might also check out this page where you can see games ordered by community rating.
The top 13 contain 4 of your game picks.

https://blindgamers.com/Home/GameList

@david_solomon1, the JGT guide does mention CoolSoft briefly under the "A few notes to help you enjoy Morokuma's text games" heading.
It also links to the translation guide in the articles room.
Agreed it would be nice if the translation article linked to JGT, though I recognize JGT has limitations, such as only translating to English and the slot machine issues.
BTW, thanks again for all your help when I was first implementing JGT.

~ Ian Reed
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Try my free JGT addon, the easy way to play Japanese games in English.
Or try the free games I've created.

2017-02-15 11:01:57

@DanC: No question, JGT is awesome. I'm pretty sure I know what puzzle you're refering to as well tongue.

@IanReed: I forgot that the JGT guide mentions CoolSoft. It's nice to have a package to help people get going with the games with as little fuss as possible and then let them go and get expansions like Clipboard2SAPI as wanted or needed.

Caccio72: If you're into mudding at all, the mud Godwars2 is based entirely off of complex PVP.

In terms of browser-based games with PVP, I think Core Exiles has a mech battling system. Billy Versus Snakeman also has a lot of PVP options, though it's been a long time since I played so I can't really describe them in detail.

2017-02-15 14:35:14

I believe it was the light puzzle   In  alternative magic .  Luckily I found the answers on here, as I had no idea what it was saying half the time.  I just re-downloaded them all again onto a different machine and tried out brave of cloudia.  Some reason I got stuck when trying to move to treasure chest on the battle tutorial.  I could only move forward and back and none of the keys I tried appear to do anything. Haha.  Apparently this is why you don't play games late at night.

2017-02-15 17:47:51

Thanks people, but I don't need any game-translations, I both speak and wrote english totally fluently. (errr...just try ignoring my typos, they are caused by my still lacking blind-typing skill)

As for Entombed, I just bought, and upgraded it to full version.
Normally I already applied its patch 2 days ago.

And still...NO BAZAR at all...not even the high-dcore list can be loaded in...

What the bloody hell is wrong??????

(please forgive me for being this pissed-off, but after all it was MY damn-hard saved money, so I do expect to get what I spent it on!!!

2017-02-15 18:24:22

I know bazaar has had some bugs and been up and down a bit, I don't know where it currently, perhaps contact Jason Alan the game's creator and ask what's happening with the server.
To be honest though, the bazaar even when it is working is a pretty minimal part of the game, as I said, the main thing you with the full version of entombed is the extra variety in the dungeon with character racesand jobs, and of course similarly lots more monsters too.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see,
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

2017-02-15 19:16:25 (edited by david_solomon1 2017-02-15 19:16:48)

@caccio72:

If you read back in the topic, you'll see that we aren't talking about translating english games, but instead using translation services to play japanese games that aren't available in english. If you've ever heard of games like Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Tactics, Dragon Quest or Xenogears, these are the types of games we're talking about. In most cases, these genres aren't represented in the english audio games market at all.

As a side note, every one of the japanese RPGs are free so far.

2017-02-16 04:56:26 (edited by Caccio72 2017-02-16 05:17:46)

Dark wrote:

I know bazaar has had some bugs and been up and down a bit, I don't know where it currently, perhaps contact Jason Alan the game's creator and ask what's happening with the server.
To be honest though, the bazaar even when it is working is a pretty minimal part of the game, as I said, the main thing you with the full version of entombed is the extra variety in the dungeon with character racesand jobs, and of course similarly lots more monsters too.

Yeah Dark, I indeed got more various monsters, more races and jobs to choose from, larger dungeons with more items and AI-characters to meet and recruit...and maybe even the bazar is there too, it's just me who doesn't know how to access it...do you happen to know that?
It sure isn' among, or inside the menu-options...is that where it is supposed to be, or it becomes available only after starting a new game?
If so, which is the key-command for it?
I tried all the "regular" keys out, but haven't checked the combos with shift/ctrl/alt yet...


Btw, I do hope I could make a nice use of the bazar, especially during my starting-period, when my new character starts with only 1 piece of equipment. (in my case some lousy weapon)

2017-02-16 07:09:26

You can't access the bazaar until you reach the third level of the dungeon. It's not accessible from the very beginning of the game.

2017-02-16 15:16:17

Hi,

I'd suggest pokemonbattlearena. it is a quite complex browser lay-out, but doable for sure, but the only fact is, that you should have the time to spare and the patience to learn the lay-out and how things behave when you click an Arrow on the graphical map.

You'll start out with a starter pokemon, like charmander, squirtle, piplup, chickorita etc. and you can wander around on a map you want and try to capture more pokemon. you do this by pressing graphical arrows, my tests told me that this works the best with jaws and probably supernova, but nvda is a bit clunky to navigate around with.

But i am a bit in a hurry right now, and i won't be on in the weekend that much. but i will be glad to awnser any questions in this topic when i will be on this forums again.

The link is:

www.pokemonbattlearena.net

Again, this will take some time to get familiar with. some things seem inaccessible, but there are work-arounds them.

greetz mike

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