Blazond's attack is comparable to Garganchan's. I'm not kidding. And no, it doesn't matter when you transform it, but if you do it early, you're going to miss some moves that only Mutmo gets (Slash at 49 is a big one, along with Daring Comeback, Sharpen and Takedown). What I suggest you do is be patient. Level the poor Mutmo as much as you can, then when it has all the moves as Mutmo that you want it to have, transform it. At this point, go straight to the move tutor in Orianda and pick up Blaze Rampage (learned at 49), and maybe Torch in case Restrain is used on you/you're facing something with really good defense and bad special defense. If you're training Mutmo in such a way that it's getting points, shove then into attack and speed. This will make your Blazond a fairly fast, slightly frail and extremely potent physical attacker.

Boibul line. My issue with them is that they get absolutely nothing that can hurt ghosts, and their physical defense isn't too hot. Special defense is very nice though. I'd personally rather use a Sacroloon or something, because at least with Sacroloon, it's got a higher base stat total, better moves and generally a better means of keeping itself and the rest of the team alive. I've just never found Boibul's line all that useful.

Ditto the Monja line. Weak fighting moves (except Blind Rush) really, really hurt this guy. He's super super fast, and has decent attacking stats, but he doesn't really do all that much besides Poison Dart and Black Bite. If he ever gets some love, I'll give him another look.

Fly will work to avoid Aura Master or Sonic Missile. So will Tunnel.

Martiagle hits hard, has good speed. Fowliture hits almost as hard, has slightly lower speed, and has a couple more tricks up its sleeve. For air types, both have their uses.

For Mutmo: breed it whenever you want, just make sure to have the transformation items lying around if you want to complete or fill out the manapedia to some extent. Elvond is good, Blazond looks good in theory, Duskond is busted.

Heh, if you're trying to take manamon that are hard to use, try Viralite, or Thundron, or Simulon.

Also, I may be in the market for a Mortrex fairly soon, if anyone's willing. Not tonight, maybe not even tomorrow, but I want to give this one another good look. And I really don't want to have to trade with myself, if possible. Maybe Sheepit as well, though that will be a few days more I think.

Have any of you actually tried using a Grizzlord? Is it any good? From what I remembered, its stats aren't too great, but it does get Frenzied Rage and I think Berserk Branch and Pummel and Hibernate. Just not sure how it turns out, and the one Grizzlord I ever owned (from the ingame trade) had low stats according to the Hazeldale stat checker.

I can actually give a fully transformed Mortrex at 38, maybe 37, can't do it until Friday because I don't have computer access until then. About Remullion, hmm I have to get one at some point. I have a long time until I can get a Redonkius. I'm only at the factory. I don't have a Bearan on an old save, so I won't be able to give a Grizzlord. At least the one in the stadium before Shadow Kingdom hit hard. And I have tried Bearan, it's like Fyrate. Nice damage, pretty good hp, but it's defenses on both sides aren't the best. It's hp makes up for it's low defenses, it I know it hits harder than Boibul's final transformation, happens at level 22.

I can host, not until Friday as I said before. Need any of the starters, or something rare to catch? I know I have Aquaffe at level 11 or 12, and Leafox. They might be in their second transformations, but they can always be bred. I will be able to host around 5 or 6 PM, that's when I arrive home from school. I don't have any of the mythicals, but I can probably grab them off of another file. I might, and I say might, still have one somewhere after the master stadium is done, so maybe I'll be able to get some of the final transformations you can only find on the place to the final town you can get to in the post game. Also, I wonder what would happen if I used the Irod Pendant in Shadow Kingdom, maybe that's how I can capture Irodium if what I heard is true. I know you can't capture the version that you have to battle, but I've read about people using Irodium. If only I knew how to do this, I'd love, just love, to use Irodium somewhere in the game, wonder if you can use it in the master stadium. That would make it a lot easier, Draco Breaker, Dragon Fang, or any other attacks he has.

After a lot of grinding, wasting time that I could of used to work on an essay that I wasn't supposed to start, I beat Octoross in the Sqien Path, meaning the time where you're supposed to lose! It was hard, but I eventually did it. This is with the team I had created for the challenge, plus a couple that I dropped after beating him because I thought they were a bit strong for the team. All of them were level 24 or 23. And yes, I used level up herbs. I got the team by trading between the 2 files. One with an almost complete Manapedia, and one after the first stadium was complete. I'll say now, the grinding took a lot of time that I could of used for English, math, or work but I didn't have any real work accept that english that I wasn't even supposed to start. And their's a positive and a negative to beating him. Well we know the positive, the ability of beating him, all the extra exp and gold, but the negative. Fighting your own team outside the tunnels. That was a pain, and Yavon's Manamon got wrecked by my giant from the unknown gifts. Beast. He power kicked Yavon's fyste, then my Decist owned his Eagala with Ice Cutter for maybe 110 damage? His Friggle tanked a Power Kick, then died from an Ice Cutter like his other 2. And a positive to that, my Ratsal got a ton of exp and it was no problem to transform him. Octorosses Vybrogen and Recobrah were the hardest, mainly because the only one I had that could take hits and do good damage was my transformed Boibul, they can tank hits, and do pretty good damage in return. To prove this, here is the audio file of me beating him. I had to use a ton of herbs, and for any new players, it does contain the introduction before the battle if you don't want to hear that, skip about 30 or 35 seconds.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/conte … /file?dl=1

I'll try to get another link up, don't know why it's broken. Maybe this,
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/conte … CBQF/file?

Well, from what I remember, I also used to get surprised by Fyrate's speed.
Nice thing about Remulion, I suspected the order in which moves from both parents were placed would influence Remulion's moveset, as there is kind of a similar thing in Pokemon, but never tried it.

Yeah. It gets Electric Shock before that, and AquaZap as a Zapistan I believe. It also gets Shadow Claw and Sonic Missile and Charge of Fury. Erroir gets Power Fang, which is awesome.

Well, there is something I wanted to verify since quite a bit of time, and it happens to be true.
For those who care, Steelion learns Iron Impact at level 60. So, if there is anyone who could be interested in a level 1 Remullion with Iron Impact, you know what to do. To me it is more of a funny thing then an awesome one, but I guess it can have it's use. It's 2.5 times as powerful as Steel Horn, so I guess that's fine.

Ah, good to know on Steelion. It's still busted I'm afraid, but a Remullion with Steel Impact at level 1 is funny. Personally I'd probably try to fill the slots with moves it can't get on its own, although I'm picturing Remullion using Steel Impact on some poor unsuspecting Squirmunk and destroying it.

Just finished Orianda Stadium. Wrecked it with Titomaton and Aperishian, with Banyardan for backup when the ghost got busted. Heh.

Discovered something: you know the "deviant manamon" thing? It's partially broken. I had a deviant Squirmunk in a previous file with perfect HP, and it played that annoying little sound whenever it entered battle, gave me the news it was deviant when I found it. And yet, I've found other deviant manamon elsewhere (guy in Hazeldale tells me so), and I've never been alerted to it. I feel like maybe the mechanic is only something you get alerted to in the first few areas of the game...that, or some perfects are better than others? I'm not sure. lol

Boy, if you're still willing to do the Mortrex thing, I'd be hugely appreciative. I do not have Sheepit or Bearran yet - I've been busier than I thought - and I do have a baby Leefox I can trade you (I bred my Banyardan to get one with good stats, because the one I started with was about as bad as you can get).

Sleep Spray is 60% accurate. Sing is 70% accurate. When did the Sleep Spray thing happen? I could've sworn it was 80-85% accurate. Hell, in an email I got about a week ago, even Aaron said he thought Sleep Spray was more accurate, and explained it as being because the mons who get Sleep Spray come around later in the game, and so they deserve better than 70%-accurate Sing? So much for that.

I'm pretty sure it's 150 power, 100 accuracy, but it makes you wait a turn afterword, to rest. It's sort of like HyperBeam.

Haha, got Mutmo. Now it's time to raise a Blazond (well, I'll be raising the Mutmo to 49, but whatever) just to see how badass this thing gets.

Just started the factory. Noticing a serious problem with Bellaard already. He has Heaven's Winds, and some pretty nice special attack, but Bombusect and Morghoul can both survive it and OHKO with Black Bite/Clobber. That's what you get for being extra weak to undead I guess, but since these two are the ones you see more than Dormanoid, it means his viability as a holy type takes a serious hit here. He does wreck Tigrath pretty nicely though, and Tigrath is something I usually struggle with a little bit because I don't often run a holy type. I have yet to find a holy type with good defense, outside Ziognioss of course. Bellaard dies to undead. Sacroloon can protect itself with Divine Protection but still has fairly low-ish defense. Myaneko is utterly and completely busted, and is also double weak to undead. Tenshaino is maybe the only exception, and it's got a couple of really ugly weaknesses (one to magic, for instance) that shut it down.

There are moments where I wish I could take this concept and make my own game, but I simply don't know enough BGT to do it. I wouldn't use any of Aaron's creatures, but hell, if he can make a pokemon clone, then so could anyone else. Heaven knows I've got a nearly complete list in a document on my hard drive, and it would only take some tweaks to make sure nothing was too tightly similar. I'd have to change a couple of types (would probably do away with the undead and holy types, and add a mystic type, a light type and a dark type (shadow and ghost would be their own things). But yeah. I dunno. I suppose it goes back to the whole notion where if you want something done a certain way, do it yourself.

So, yet another update (getting tired of me yet?).

Ampheakub, Bearran's first form, gets Berserk Branch all on its own. No worries there; I'm definitely keeping that as a nice coverage option. It appears that Bearran gets Power Fang and Copy while Grizzlord doesn't, and Grizzlord gets Takedown and Assault Tackle (and probably Frenzied Rage later on) while Bearran doesn't. As such, if I want Copy or Power Fang (and I think I want at least one of those), I'll have to raise my Bearran to at least level 41. Got some work ahead of me, but it shouldn't be too bad. I found all this out by levelling a Merembear to 45 and then trading it away for Grizzlord. That Grizzlord comes at level 30, and will never get Power Fang or Copy, plus it had bad stat potential so I don't really want it.

Speaking of Merembear, it's a poor man's Blazond. Slightly better defense, a bit less HP, less attack, less special attack, much less special defense and a fair bit less speed. Gets Slash, Roar and Blaze Rampage (the last of those moves at 46), which makes it easier to raise (the way I did it, I had to raise a freaking Mutmo to 49 so it'd get Slash), but less payout in the long run. Blazond is just better, hands down. Probably a better overall flame type than Garganchan, because Garganchan's HP isn't great and its defenses are only a hair above average...plus that god-awful speed. Blazond, by comparison, is fairly fast but not lightning quick (Orystar will outspeed it, and so will Mortrex I believe, but it can outspeed a Thornita quite easily and one-shot with Blaze Rampage).

Oh, speaking of plant types? Either someone sneakily snuck in some nerfs to Banyardan, or it was always this way and I just didn't know what I was looking for. None of its stats are bad, but none are wickedly amazing either. When it gets Earthquake it'll be a lot better, but with Sleep Spray being a 6 in 10 chance (I seriously think it was better once upon a time), and the double ice weakness, I can see why some of you from way way earlier in the thread had issues. Mine has good stats in all but one area, and it's...well, not bad, but Guerrerril might be a better plant type, so I'm gonna have to check him out.

I'm also going to catch me a Zapistan, breed it, and see whether it stands up to Erroir. Erroir obviously comss way way earlier in the game, and as such is probably the best straight-up electric type for much of the game as far as dealing damage goes (Mondevol is better overall because of typing and tanking ability), but Dussoket might take the crown at the end of the day.
Titomaton is really quite good. Another tank, and it gets Superspark at 30. Unfortunately that it's last attack, which leaves it with Sonic Missile, Superspark, Electric Shock and Iron Tackle for attacking moves that actually matter (it might get Pounce at level 1, I can't remember). Nice Iron Guard though.

Speaking of stats, I've come to realize that moves which jack stats are, in some ways, not all they're cracked up to be. In pokemon, raising a stat by a stage means you add 50% of its base to it. So if a Charmander has 30 attack and uses a move that boosts attack, it will now have 45 attack. With manamon, I think it's 30% of base added, so that means stuff like Hone Blades doesn't actually double attack, as Swords Dance would in pokemon. And during those turns where you're putting your stats up, your foe might critical-hit you and kill you...so yeah, not a huge fan. The main reason sweepers don't exist well in this game, apart from terrible move options in most cases of course, is just this; if you use a stat-raising move, the number of rounds you need in order to kill the foe actually increases in a lot of cases. If Martiagle does 50% of a Leonatar's HP with Fly, and uses Hone Blades to try and shorten the match, he will actually take 3 rounds to kill Leonatar because Fly will do something like 85% instead of 100+%. Three rounds in which his frail defenses won't stand up to multiple uses of Slash. Rounds in which some tamers will use items to heal a near-fatal hit and waste your use points.

I did just waste Irroadium with Orystar, Titomaton and Blazond though. Used the other two to pump up Orystar, then Meteor Rushed him over and over. Was doing about 100 damage per hit, and I had him paralyzed and confused in the bargain. Titomaton died (Final Oblivion or whatever it's called), and Banyardan helped mop up.