2016-07-08 04:01:32

1. In the sapi5 dectalk folder, the corect exe file to use is called setup.exe I believe, in keeping with microsoft standards.
2. All the eloquence versions on jake's site are for sapi4.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-08 14:25:30

Because last time I chekcned that site didn't have the sapi5 version, only standalone.
As for the dectalk stuff in the sapi section of jake's site, dectalk reader 1.iso is 4.61 which supports sapi5, access32.exe is Henter-joice's version of 4.11 which only works with really old versions of jaws, and dectalk acess32.7z is version 4.6, including an experimental sapi4 version from DEC that never got finnished due to the transition to sapi5 in the following version?

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-08 15:24:37

Well, eloquence should be abandon til now. But the damn codeFactory keep charges like an idiot.

2016-07-08 16:05:29

Damn right. Cereproc at least has an excuse since it's relatively new, but eloquence is even more expensive than that (about $70 USD vs. $60USD for cereproc). So unless code factory backs off and gives up their rediculous pricing, then we're fucking screwed.

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2016-07-08 17:23:32 (edited by jack 2016-07-08 17:24:09)

Keep in mind it's not Code FActory that's entirely responsible for the charge. Not all the money goes into their coughers. Some goes into the coughers of the fat organization-hogging corporation known as, you guessed it, Nuance! Nuance should be abandoning Eloquence though, because it's a late 90s speech essential that has become archaic because of new so-called human-sounding voices, which, apart from a few Vocalizer and Acapella whom are very good at balancing naturalness and responsiveness, are incredibly laggy. Therefore, Eloquence should be abandoned and released as freeware.

2016-07-08 22:42:13

Unfortunately for us, corporations like Nuance do not have that mindset. As long as they can make money off of eloquence, which they still can at this point because Freedom Scientific and other manufacturers are paying for it, it will not be made free. And what's even more pointless about the whole thing is that eloquence is not even being developed anymore; it's just being sold from company to company. I seriously wonder if the eloquence source code is around anymore now. This mess makes me honestly wonder about the history of Eloquence, oddly enough.

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2016-07-08 22:51:32

What makes it more pointless is that nuance was much kinder to tts3000, going so far as letting independent companies that do sapi4 compatible programs hoast it on the internet.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-08 23:00:35 (edited by Slender 2019-04-06 16:11:32)

On the Eloquence history note, I did find this paper about ETI eloquence some time ago. It is a very interesting paper about the rules that ETI Eloquence uses, and is quite interesting to read. This was originally in a PDF, but I converted it to TXT; I will find the link to the PDF in case my dropbox link goes down. Edit: this has moved to Google Drive as my Dropbox links have been suspended. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bybs6V … sp=sharing And about L&H, something makes me wonder whether Nuance's treatment of the TTS was do to how L&H died.

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2016-07-08 23:14:21

That's interesting. I'm actualy interested in the hystory of the classic tts engines myself. On a similar note, did you know that the default tts engine on mac OS is a distent ancestor of the willow pond tts engine?

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-08 23:53:31

Yes, I believe SoftVoice, Inc. had made the original Macintosh TTS, but I'm not sure if Apple had continued development on their own. As Macintosh said when he first spoke to the world, "never trust a computer you can't lift". It's amazing to think that today, speaking computers are very common, but in 1984, it was such a novelty..

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2016-07-09 00:07:16

It's also a bit of a shamre that lh never bothered to make a sapi5 version of truevoice like they did for tts3000. I think it would've been funny to hear radar overseer scotty as the voice of entombed, for example.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-09 02:28:01

Well said, Jack.

2016-07-12 04:55:10

we really need sapi5 infovox230 and sapi5 keynote gold! i am trying to join the hispanic community on klango and using google translate ask them if they can completely decompile those synths and make them modern sapi5 tts engines.

2016-07-12 05:06:06

i know keynote gold my favorite tts was made by l&h also.

2016-07-12 19:55:14

Josh, two things. Keynote was first made by Burkley Speech Technologies. Fun fact: The original verisn ohad an actual female voice, and for any Japanese speakers out there, yes, it did speak Japanese. So Duch is not the only language the Braillenote lacks. Second, Keynote was never partt of a windows speech api of any kind, but regarding Infovox or any other sapi4 synth, we kind of already have that figured out. The Baum International Tts! This speech system is a multilanguage tts bridge for Baum products, but it's more than that. When used, the system is a sapi bridge! Therefore, you can select your voice that the bridge will utilize, and it can be sapi4 or 5. Once you select your .preferred voice, you can go to speech properties and select Baum International Tts, and you'll have your preferred voice come to you as sapi 5!

2016-07-12 20:35:32

Problem there is you have to buy one of baum's products, which are expensive as all hell (more so than jaws IMO). It doesn't help either that bau,'s software (vergo and cobra in particular) are little known in my country.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-13 01:05:19

To my knowledge, you don't if you're using the international tts, that's just a sapi bridge.You don't

2016-07-13 13:49:16

And how can I use it?
for example I need a bridge to TrueVoice.

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2016-07-13 16:37:55

I didn't know. And btw, the bridge works differently in windows8 and instead is an ECI bridge, and a free way to get sapi5 eloquence (I'm looking at you code factory!)

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2016-07-13 16:59:33 (edited by jack 2016-07-13 17:00:53)

You have to choose your voice. The thing to remember is, kinda like how you can't change the commercial eloquence's actual voice unless you go into the utility, you have to use Baum INternational Tts to choose your voice. AFter that, you should see a Baum International Tts entry in your speech properties. Just keep in mind it's not entirely Code Factory's fault, but also the fault of Nuance.

2016-07-13 18:08:49

How do you download this voice? Do I have to install Cobra Screen Reader?

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2016-07-13 18:27:13

Beginning with cobra 11, international tts is a sepparate component. Just goodle "baum international tts" and you should find it. I recommend you get it from the official site. Download sites like software informer have become a breeding ground for viruses in recent years.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-13 18:33:16

Is it International TTS 5.05? I'm downloading it right now and it's pretty big. Does this run as an independent component? Can I use it on Windows XP? I don't use anything past XP as Mac OS X is my primary operating system.

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2016-07-13 18:51:28

Yes, that's the one. I don't know about xp compatibility because I only ever installed this on 7 and 8, though it might work in xp. As for the file sise, that's because it installs several vocalizer voices (one each for aribic, german, russian, and UK english). I don't know if it's independent of cobra as I installed on a system that already has cobra on it. The latest version of cobra (version 11) only works in win8, but baum continues to hoast cobra 10 for older versions of windows as far back as XP, which includes the same version of international tts.

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-id software, 1995

2016-07-13 18:58:46

I can't seem to find US English eloquence in international TTS for some reason, though.

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