Topic by blindncool 2016-05-02 19:41:35 (edited by blindncool 2016-05-02 19:44:28)

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Hi. Subject says it all. I'm finally considering upgrading to OS X 10.11. Should I upgrade, or not?

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Reply by cartertemm 2016-05-02 21:21:09

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Yes, I totally recommend the upgrade. I've been using El Capitan since beta stages, and it works great. Are you currently on Yosemite?  If so, El Capitan beets it by a long shot.  Of course it has bugs, that's to be expected with software. It's never going to be perfection

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Reply by Sebby 2016-05-02 23:24:21

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I personally advise against it. There are still some maddening bugs which are clearly never going to get fixed, and although there are substantial improvements too, the only one you're really going to notice is responsiveness. Certainly, if you use activities, do not upgrade.

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Reply by cartertemm 2016-05-03 03:22:57

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What machine are you working with? The specifications definitely play a big role in this I believe.

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Reply by blindncool 2016-05-03 03:32:23

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My machine is a mid 2012 MacBook Pro, with a 2.5 GHZ Intel core I5. It has 4 Gb of ram, and a 256 GB hard drive. It's running OS X version 10.10.5.

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Reply by cartertemm 2016-05-03 03:38:09

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OK, my Mac is mid 2012, eight GB of RAM, and a 256 GB SSD.  El Capitan will give you speed improvements if that's what you're looking for, but there are some really annoying bugs that I wish weren't there. It's not bad, but  it's not the most amazing experience I've ever seen on Mac OS.

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Reply by Sebby 2016-05-03 03:57:45

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If you have the skill for it, dupe your existing machine onto a backup drive and then try both upgrading and then clean-installing. A lot of reports seem to say that a clean install followed by a NVRAM reset is likely to give you the smoothest experience that can be had with El Crap--er, El Cap.

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Reply by cartertemm 2016-05-03 04:00:45

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Elcrap? What issues have you noticed?  Don't get me wrong, I've noticed them as well. Just always choose to stay on the latest version for compatibility reasons.

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Reply by Sebby 2016-05-03 06:17:13

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My biggest and most infuriating gripes are the loss of activities and hotspots in VoiceOver and the glitchy networking which means that one in every ten web page loads simply won't start. I've no doubt there are other issues too, but all I know about them is that I remember seeing them there in El Cap and being relieved when they weren't on Yosemite. Oh yeah, text editing in Safari and the way that web views don't load properly are others; just try opening the App Store to see that one.

It's a shame but Apple's attention to detail just isn't there any more and I sincerely wish they'd stop with this creeping featuritis and get back to doing another Snow Leopard: all stability, no new features, and an earnest commitment to making the experience as smooth and delightful as they possibly can. Of course when iOS is selling ten times (and more) more units this is a faint hope. WWDC is nearly upon us and I shall be very interested to see what OS X--no, sorry, "macOS"--brings to the table.

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