2015-08-27 02:23:57 (edited by nyanchan 2018-01-18 07:57:50)

Hi.
This is the secondary discussion topic for my sidescroller game, Bokurano Daibouken 3. Please post any comments, questions, or whatever you want to discuss.

Bokurano Daibouken 3
Genre:side scroller action RPG
Language: Japanese / English
Installer link: http://www.nyanchangames.com/softs/coun … download=1
Translation dictionary: http://www.nyanchangames.com/order/bk3translate/
Text walkthrough written by Blind Ninja: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbuid08957dei … e.txt?dl=0
About the translation dictionary
The translation is given as a dictionary package that can be loaded and used in the game. The dictionary is a shareware; you need to buy one for just $5. You might think that being forced to pay for translation is unfair, but we have spent about 2 years for this project and more than 9000 lines have been processed by just a few people. We kindly ask for your understanding.
To get it working in English with free tools
1 download instant translate addon for NVDA(the development version is required)
http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/i … te.en.html
2 install the addon and check the keystrokes(in the addon's instructions section).
3 Then you have to set the game's speech output to clipboard. Download the clip copy addon at
http://accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html
And install it.
4. run the game with NVDA running, and navigate to the speech output option(options - speech output - clipboard)
5 Now the game outputs strings to your clipboard. clipCopy is no longer required.
6 Alternatively, you can use the JGT addon, but I haven't tested it for myself, so cannot explain here
Some useful links
A guide created by Jeff Rutkowski
http://***/Bokurano_Daiboukenn_3.htm
Some of the previous topic's logs
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=a … p;o=newest

I don't speak as good as I write, and I don't listen as good as I speak.

2015-08-27 08:12:00

Hi Yukio.
You are awesome. Thanks so much for making this topic so it won't be screwed up again. big_smile
It would be very helpful for new players if you wanna post a direct link to download the game in the first post. Maybe also the version number for the latest version, and a english changelog.
Then, you could also post the most important link ever, which is to the mail archive which contains many of the posts from the deleted topic. I haven't checked how many of the original post this archive contains, but it do have lots of posts. I wanna thank the person who made this mail archive a million times for doing this. If it wasn't for him, so many questions needed to be asked again, and answers had to be answered again to restore it all which has been randomly deleted. Here is the link:
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=a … p;o=newest
You might also want to post this incomplete gide in the first post, hoping this guy have time to put in some more work into this great guide:
http://***/Bokurano_Daiboukenn_3.htm
And, maybe you should also write a short guide on where to download the NVDA translate add on, how to set it up and how to use it so those who haven't played the game yet quickly can get started.
I have a short question: If I use the cheatcode where I call the cat, will this then have some consiquences? I'm against cheating and might only do this after I have beaten the game.

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2015-08-27 08:56:17 (edited by nyanchan 2015-08-27 09:02:31)

Hi SLJ.
I've updated the post with latest changelog and other info. Please wait for the instant translate guide. I need to search the latest information since I haven't updated the addon for a long time.
The game does nothing even if you summon cats, the number of summoned cats are internally counted though.

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2015-08-27 11:39:17

hi. Does the dile in stage 18 affect getting the hyper yoyo? I have tried landing in all 3 parts of stage 6 and I still can't get it. What am I missing. I have all the previous yoyos.

2015-08-27 12:13:03

What does the gravety killer do guys?

2015-08-27 14:08:42

basically uses up a lot of stamina and is very inaccurate. Can someone tell me how to get the yoyo? I know it has something to do with stage 15, but I don't know what exactly.

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2015-08-27 14:34:19

If you mean the regular yoyo, in 6-1, avoid the first turbulence by going all the way up, but be at the slowest speed when doing this. After you avoid the turbulance, go to the lowest altitude and land. All the way to the rite is a switch, so press that and you will get it.

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2015-08-27 14:41:10

Well, I heard that the Instant translate for NVDA is now dead? so, is there any translater software to use to translate the game?

2015-08-27 16:53:20 (edited by boy 2015-08-27 16:54:23)

Do you have version 4.0 dev of instant translate? That version works. If you don't you can get it from the nvda add ons web site. Go to the NVDA menu, tools, manage add ons, then get add ons. Instant translate is there, and make sure you download the developer version.

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2015-08-27 17:19:29

to whoever said the gravity killer was inaccurate, you might be thinking of the chaos version of the game
the original thing is one of the best melee weapons in the game, in my opinion

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2015-08-27 19:50:52

really? how can you get it?

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2015-08-28 08:03:38

Nice update of the first post Yukio.
I saw the Undead hate mentioned in the changelog. When will I meet those or this? SOunds interesting. smile

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2015-08-28 08:01:43

Nice update of the first post Yukio.
I saw the Undead hate mentioned in the changelog. When will I meet those or this? SOunds interesting. smile

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2015-08-28 10:31:06

Hi all! I'm stuck at this game, don't know how to put in English, any help? I'm using nvda wile playing. can anybody help me?

"Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts. There are seven words that will make a person love you. There are ten words that will break a strong man's will. But a word is nothing but a painting of a fire. A name is the fire itself."

2015-08-28 11:33:38

For the Yoyo:
If I remember correctly, you Need to have beaten 16-4 once and you must have collected the items laying around especially the one the Boss Drops when it is destroyed.
Then you must land in one of the two Locations in 6-1 and 6-2.
I think it is 6-1.
Then you must go to the end and see a Switch.
If you press enter, you will be asked if you want to press the Switch or not.
If you say yes, the Switch will be pressed, you will hear the Sound of the yoyo and the stage will end.
If you do this before you optained the item from 16-4, you will be unable to press the Switch when you answer the question with yes.
If the Level ended the way I described, you can go to 15-1 and press the T key.
There you get a Level specific menu.
But If you did everything right there is one more Option to drop a yoyo.
If you select it, it will fall down near you, like when you command medkits to be dropped near you.
You should collect the weapon quickly, because I think enemy fire could destroy it.
And then you must fight the Level until it Ends.
Since there are no Exits, ist conditions must be fulfilled to Keep the weapon.
If it gets destroyed or if you collect it and die, you must return to 6-1 and press the Switch again, because the yoyo can only be dropped once per usage of the Switch.
For the Hyper Yoyo:
I am not sure if any Special conditions are required for it to apear, but I think that the Player must have the Yoyo and the Super Yoyo.
If you then land again in 6-1, it should lay on the ground somewhere between your starting Point and the by now familiar Switch.
Mind the glass walls and be careful not to destroy it when you want to remove the obstructions with your weapons though.
The Undeath Hate:
It is the Boss of the Caves which are in stage 19.
You will automatically fight it when you are ready to Play 19-4.
If you are very high Level and have lots of strong weapons you can destroy it directly.
If not, be Aware, that normal weapons will help to end the first part of the battle, but a different Approach is needed for the second part of the battle, but it is possible to end this rather quickly, even if this is your first Play at normal mode, beat this modspecial items from Bonus Levels or extra Shops are unavailable and obviously not required, allthough they might help later on.
Gravity Killer:
It can be optained by fighting the battleship in 20-4.
I am not exactly sure when the weapon is released but you will Need the weapon carrier to get it, since you are in the air in your plane when it Shows up.
What I know is that it will apear only in higher game modes.
If you are playing 20-4 for the very first time in normal mode, it is impossible to optain the weapon.
Originally, the dial of 18-3 was required because you had to set it to the correct number, but if I remember correctly, this requirement has been dropped and this means that it is a bit easier to get the weapon now.

2015-08-28 12:32:04

This is crazy! I have the regular yoyo, the super yoyo and the triple yoyo. I have landed on 6-1 and looked absolutely everyware. Still no hyper yoyo. I really have no idea what I'm doing wrong here. I've also looked around 6-2. No hyper yoyo.

2015-08-28 18:34:35

is there a way to get past 13 3 without using a missile on this very large wall at the end of the stage? Because no matter how many bullets I pore into the thing it doesn't get destroyed, and when I fly into it once I die a horrible death. Can I destroy it with the machinegun? or is my save officially totaled?

I used to be a knee like you, then I took an adventurer in the arrow.

2015-08-28 19:02:00

Hi,

I would really like to play this game, and part two as well. I can not get the game to read in English though, either this one or part two. I've posted about this before, and no one seems to be able to help me. When I use NVDA and I have all the add ons, it won't translate. Can anyone help me?
Thanks so much.

"I've learned that this life's not just a game, just a line, between the pleasures and the pain." - Aaron Lewis

2015-08-28 19:11:35

in 13-3, in oreder to get through that magic barrio just hit it lots of times with your machine gun, turn around for a few seconds, then head back towards it and continue fireing and repeat it until the barrio brakes.

2015-08-29 02:14:12

Can anyone please tell me where to find the  magical edge?
I have searched the archive of the original bk3 topic.  A few say it's in the tutorial, on parts 3 or 4, but the only weapons I can see there are the cat explosion in part 3, and the throwing knife in part 4. I've tried looking everywhere else in the tutorial that I can get to, even using the magic hook, but to no avail. So I assume that either it's something to do with the cat in part 1, or the duck in part 4. Maybe I have to be at a certain level in the game, or to have completed it for it to appear.

Any help greatly appreciated.

2015-08-29 03:14:35

I can't help you set up the translater addon right now, since I haven't updated to the latest version. Things I know for now are
Download the beta or developer edition of the latest addon from the NVDA addons site
Install it
See the instructions in the installed addon, and check the keystroke
Set BK3's speech output to clipboard
done
In which step are you stuck?

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2015-08-29 05:38:51

How do I set BK3's output to clipboard?

"I've learned that this life's not just a game, just a line, between the pleasures and the pain." - Aaron Lewis

2015-08-29 08:00:05

From the title menu
down 3 times(options selected) press enter
down 2 times(speech output selected) press enter
Press enter one more time(the default curser is clipboard)
press end to go to the last menu item(save settings)
done

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2015-08-29 11:41:48

Yukio, you aren't right here, he/she must use japanese keyboard to copy text correctly
Download slipcopy addon from jeff rutkowski's page

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2015-08-29 13:05:32

@Lord_raven: Wow, thanks a ton. You are awesome. big_smile
To everyone else: Here is the link to the NVDA Addon instant translate page. You can both download the stable version and the developement version, and it is currently the developement version which works:
http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/i … te.en.html
Here is a tip on how to navigate the game before you have set it to copy the text to the clipboard:
Download the clip copy addon for NVDA from the following website:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html
Then, when the game is launched, you can press f12 to copy the last spoken sentence to the clipboard, and then use the Instant translate addon to translate the message from the game. I managed to change the settings in this way.
Feel free to add this to the first post.

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