You've got me then. anyways, you could try yourself on this site:
http://grossgang.com
Hope that you'll find what you're looking for there.
Socheat

You're most welcome.

Hi brad and sochiet
which voice are you talking about is this the more inhanced version of eloquence?
Thanks
ishan

Well, I finally got the voice myself.

hi,

I got it from jake's website.
however, I have uploaded to my dropbox. you need to use 7-zip or WinRAR to extract the folder.
here is a link to it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/agyjb1zyh2y6d … 4.zip?dl=1
thanks

Hi there
I installed this and it works very good. But I like more the new versions of eloquence.

Brad, if you get Chinese speaking, or like me, who got Spanish talking, just go in the voice settings menu after you've selected Microsoft sappy 4 synthesizer and in the Variant section press the home key, and you will hear the American English. Then you can move through the voices and different variants.

Hope it helps.

that bug's been around for a while now, no idea why they haven't tracked it down yet but if you have a shortcut key for NVDA or have the icon on your desktop its pretty easy to fix, these days whenever I get it I can have it fixed up in about 10 seconds

Hi btman,
  will you please explain the focus issues you are having? I'm not quite sure what is going on but perhaps I could help you.
As for the fan getting higher, does the computer run slowly when it does that? if so, it's probably not NVDA, I think it is another program, such as internet explorer, or maybe you visit a webpage or open a file that makes your computer work a lot. I find that when I go to weather bug, my fan gets high, it freezes sometimes, but alt f4 and the fan slows again.

I'm currently using JAWS mainly because at the time I bought it, I didn't know of NVDA. Other than being rather expensive, I don't have any real complaints about JAWS, it does its job and does it rather well.

If I did have complaints, it would be to the developers of some programs that don't bother to even try to make their programs accessable. I used to use H&R Block's Tax Cut to file my tax returns each year, but after I lost my vision and had to use a screen reader, I found that both Tax Cut and Intuit's Turbo Tax were invisible to JAWS. It could see their window, but couldn't see anything in them making the programs unusable.

Mainly because of its cost, before my maintenance agreement for JAWS runs out, I plan to try both the built-in accessability tools in Windows, and NVDA. I may be able to afford JAWS, but that doesn't mean I'm opposed to saving money.
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I find it disturbing that some people here seem to be condoning stealing JAWS for the inexcuseable reason that they think it costs too much. Yes, it is expensive and not everyone can afford it. If that's the case, then use NVDA rather than steal JAWS. Would you like it if somebody stole your work just because they thought you charged too much for it?
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Yeah, I just discovered that about JAWS. I was having trouble with three games, Obsessive Compulsive, The Inquisitor, and Paladin of the Sky. Obessive Compulsive is written with the BGT engine, JAWS in sleep mode solved the keyboard problem, but..., unloading JAWS didn't solve the problems with Inquisitor, I Inquisitor's its problems are from the program itself, I don't know if the BGT engine was used in Paladin, but it suffers from the same problems Obessive Compulsive has, and is fixed the same way, again but...

What iare the buts about? Unloading or putting JAWS to sleep, means the game either has to be self voiced or use SAPI. Self voicing is fine, but SAPI sucks! The only SAPI voice I have is Anna, and its not a very good voice at that.

So given a choice, I'd much rather listen to JAWS' Eloquence over SAPI's Anna any day.

To put it as simplistically as I can, I still believe as I did years ago when I jumped on this debate that JFW, a screen reader that has been around for quite some time is for anyone and everyone who needs a screen reader, from the beginner to the elite.  It tackles much in the way of versatility and functionality.  It is, however, no longer worth it on the whole if you are willing to learn and adjust in some regards.  The amount of time it would take one to learn to use NVDA is nothing compared to the price of a screen reader who's aim is not to please the average consumer.
Wait, what, you ask?  Didn't you just get done saying this screen reader is for anyone and everyone?  Yes, I did, and the reason is that anyone and everyone needs to be able to use it at a moment's notice in corporate environments and in daily business dealings.  It's target crowdd, however, is not the average consumer or every day computer user.  It is a screen reader that is mainly being developed for those in the workforce and in the field of education.  It is a product which is paid for mainly by office executives, employers, providers of services for people with disabilities, and other such agencies, thus it does not suffer if we do not have it because it is being well funded by other large organizations, some which probably do so as the result of a long standing contract.  IN short, JFW is a product that exists both to benefit blind people in the corporate world and to market itself.
NVDA was developed for users by users.  Its development is influenced by you and me.  We can throw tons of suggestions at the devs, but we need to back them up with donations, because unlike JFW, NVDA is not funded by massive conglomerates, not owned by entrepreneurial individuals who have had various kinds of success owning businesses targeted at centralizing services for people with disabilities, and cannot stand without its community.  It's feature list is ritch to the point that other screen readers imitate it.  It's known for introducing ideas that are useful to those who use it well before they are ever introduced by the supposed leaders in the industry.  It does not tax systems, does not create immense amounts of registry entries, does not require possibly restarting your system to finish installing, does not take nearly as long to load up as JAWS or any other mainstream screen reader, does not require the user to jump through hoops to port the entirety of one's settings to any and every computer of the user's choosing, does not perform unreliably when switching to separate soundcards and audio interfaces, and finally, it does not, cost, me, a penny to do all of that and not have to deal with alternatives!  Do I recommend it to everyone?  Yes!  Is it for everyone?  No.  Just as the differences between Android and iOS accessibility are glaringly obvious, so to are the differences between our screen readers.  If you need to do things quickly while having your hand held, use JAWS.  It's god at that, and by no means is that intended to be an offensive statement, given that I myself like that concept at times when things need to be done quickly.  ON the other hand, if you need to save money, or simply prefer a faster and more responsive alternative that doesn't have features you realistically do not need, shoot for the free and awesome alternative that is NVDA.  I can usually throw it at any system and get good results.  It worked with windows 8 before it was even officially supported.
And now, for a true story, I bought an HP laptop and threw JAWS on it thinking that it might work better with windows 8 than NVDA would at the time.  FS was rather suggestive in the podcast I had recently heard concerning this issue and readily proclaimed that everything was working fine with the exception of the JAWS cursor.  A few days after my purchase I decided to take the PC to Tiger Direct to purchase another soundcard for it.  When they booted up the computer they took me over to it and asked in an apologetic tone, "Do you believe that the store you purchased this device from might have scammed you by any chance?  Because we're looking at this screen and it does not look right in the slightest, and moreover, for the specs it supposedly has on it, it's not responding anywhere near as quickly as it should."  I realized then that it is a true testament to a piece of screen reading software when tech minded people who work with technology on a regular basis can tell that your PC is behaving in a way it should normally not.  When JAWS was uninstalled and replaced with NVDA, the techies went to work without any frther comment.  The screen was normal, the desktop was actually entirely visible, and the machine was completely responsive.  Do you need any further convincing that there are huge differences?