2015-01-29 10:30:30

If you get a version going with Eloquence, do let us know. I'd love to get my hands on such a beast. I decidedly do not! like eSpeak!

2015-01-29 16:49:33

Macs use EFI 1.1 and not UEFI (essentially EFI 2.0); MS supports EFI 1.1, as compatible with Macs, since Windows 8.

Macs can, of course, continue to boot Windows with an MBR table.  However, you cannot then install an EFI loader; the installer assumes that the mode you booted up the installer in is the mode of the installation you want.

Just myself, as usual.

2015-01-29 17:44:47

@jaybird

I think I know how to modify the WIM image and inject a newer version of NVDA with Eloquence support.

Will let you know.

@Sebby

Wouldn't a way around this problem be chainloading UEFI 2.0 on the top of 1.1?

I think you can do this by chainloading a boot manager, but don't have a mac to test it on.

Is there any particular reason why you want Windows  directly on the mac hardware rather than in VMWare Fusion?

m

2015-01-29 18:16:41

Hi,
Anyone got this working in a bootable iso form? I made a bootable iso, specifying the BOOTMGR file in root as the boot sector, but When I boot, Windows says it has encountered an error and shut down to protect the system.

Rob

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2015-01-30 08:03:03

that sounds great!

2015-01-30 10:09:59 (edited by jaybird 2015-01-30 12:42:52)

This post originally said:

This torrent needs a seed. I just stopped completely at 5.9% complete, and now I'm stuck. Sounds like it should be very cool when it finishes downloading though. Thanks!

Since then, my download finished, and I'm looking forward to playing with this. How did you edit the ISO to put Eloquence in it? I don't mean, how/where did you get Eloquence for NVDA, I mean, how did you actually get it into an already-existing ISO?

2015-01-30 15:09:12

Yeah, I'd love to know that also. is it hard to do that?

2015-01-30 19:07:37 (edited by Sebby 2015-01-30 19:50:44)

@Gellman: I'm souring on OS X, hence booting it natively. But I'll start with a VM to see if I can bootstrap.

Your pastes are not showing up for me. Any reason you can't simply link to the target file directly rather than going through a paste service? I'd be interested in the Eloquence version.

The links I've posted for the bundle are on S3+CloudFront; they won't go anywhere.

Edit: thanks for the PM.

Edit 2: Eloquence version of the bundle. Torrents are available with Amazon as the seeder, in case that should prove necessary. I will leave them here while there is a clear need for them.

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2015-01-30 20:03:43 (edited by gellman 2015-02-02 14:26:13)

@jaybird
@Socheat

The methods for injecting NVDA with Eloquence into a WIM file (boot.wim) is very simple.

Prepare the NVDA package (use the portable version) and install Eloquence with
autolanguage switcher)

Extract boot.wim from sources\ from the iso.

imagex /mountrw /check boot.wim 1 FullPathToWIMTempfolder


Wait for the progress indicator to complete.

This command mounts the boot.wim file in read-write mode to a temporary folder on your system.



Now go into the temporary folder containing the mounted WIM file  and there you'll find the usual Windows folder structure windows, program files etc.


Replace the NVDA folder inside Program Files with your own custom NVDA version.


Now unmount and commit the changes to the WIM file.

imagex /unmount /commit FullPathToWIMTempfolder

You will need WAIK 3 to do this, or better ask someone to provide you the WAIKTOOLS without having to get the entire iso.

m

2015-01-31 15:26:41 (edited by Socheat 2015-01-31 15:29:18)

wow, thanks for sharing!

Edit: I can't see the pm. smile

2015-01-31 16:43:25

Anybody tried running Windows XP setup using this method?

Just asking. smile

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2015-02-01 00:29:33

Bryan Smart's Talking Win PE clearly does allow you to install 64-bit versions of the OS. Use the Mega Iso. Then you'll have no problems.

2015-02-01 03:13:54

@Sebby

Yes you can.

Read this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/10181-h … rom-winpe/

You have to create an Nlite'd iso of distribution share of Windows XP with all storage drivers integrated.

This may pose some problems on newer unsupported hardware but it's considerably faster and more accessible than the old unattended winnt.sif method.

Installing Windows Xp or any other version from WinPE's 32/64 bit environment  offers several interesting unattended scenarios.

m

2015-02-01 07:45:48

I wonder if this can be done with windows 10? I'll have to try it sometime.

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2015-02-01 14:00:20

@Ethin
Short answer: Yes.

m

2015-02-01 19:47:41

how can i create the talking win PE

2015-02-02 02:24:56

@Gellman: cool.

The important reason to do this for me is use on GPT-partitioned disks, where you just can't let the Windows installer perform the partitioning. But if it is possible to launch GUI setup from PE, this will mean that I can partition from WinPE and then launch Setup. For my old Mac Mini, already using IDE with Windows XP drivers pre-integrated, as a matter of fact.

Just myself, as usual.

2015-02-02 11:32:13

@Gellman, would you please sending the pm again? I just cleaned my mailbox...

2015-02-02 14:25:07

@Hayri Tulumcu

Short answer:  Use google and read the documentation.

m

2015-02-02 15:40:20

@Gellman
thanks for the pm... I got it now. smile

2015-02-05 04:45:11 (edited by gellman 2015-02-06 04:25:11)

I have updated the isos with NVDA Eloquence.

Windows 7 Talking Preinstallation Environment with NVDA Eloquence for X86 and X64

http://tny.cz/4493c3f2

But if you prefer them with Espeak download from here:

Windows 7 Talking Preinstallation Environment with NVDA Espeak for X86 and X64

http://tny.cz/33cdd348


Note that the download links are only alive for a limited time -- most  likely 30 days.

So hurry and grab it all now!


Update 1: Download via bittorrent magnet (thanks to Bob and Sebby for seeding):

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:885B1B9F18E82A120B1BBBE2ABA964E1E53F4DF9

Update 2: Torrent magnet was invalid, now fixed.

Update 3: Download from Mega.co.nz. This mirror is persistent.

Win7PE_x64-eloquence.zip 590.0 MB

https://mega.co.nz/#!RgJRzADI!nk-jCo43M … Y0DvrJInFI

Win7PE_x86-eloquence.zip 416.7 MB

https://mega.co.nz/#!U0pzSBaB!r7wmJf_Bf … 05UWV1Nn6k

Download the complete bundle as a single zip archive from Amazon Cloud (thanks to Sebbi for hosting):

http://d297kd6ledjoa.cloudfront.net/Win … quence.rar

Update 4: I can now confirm that the Eloquence talking Windows Preinstallation Environment boots successfully on both X86 and X64.

You should now be able to re-install 64bit versions of Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 on a 64bit  architecture without sighted assistance.

Can't tell if it works on Mac.

m

2015-02-05 11:37:52

Hi all. I'm wanting to put windows on my Mac mini. I just downloaded the eloquence 64 and 86 bundle. Does it happen to have a copy of windows installed inside the.ISO file? Could anyone please help me to figure out the best way to have windows on my mac. Thanks a lot for your help.

2015-02-05 16:49:34

Can we use AOMEI PE Builder?

2015-02-06 04:23:22

@Hayri Tulumcu

Aomei PE Builder is QT based and is therefore completely inaccessible.

So short answer no we can't.

m

2015-02-06 13:30:45

Hi.
Can you upload these to somewhere other than uptobox' I am interested in the eloquence x64
If not.. I will upload them to my website and give you a direct link if you send them to me.

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