Hi,

As far as I'm aware, they are doing hard work on Narrator. With every windows version I've seen, it's gotten better and better. In fact, I would say that, while not a main sollution, Narrator is quite usable. It allows for browsing the web, use chat applications, check and reply to email, this also includes Mozilla Thunderbird, Mozilla Firefox, Skype, etc. So I think this might be quite overkill.

Hello,
Have you tried Narrator on windows 8? It's not quite as good as NVDA but it's actually much more usable now. I also heard it said a while back that the windows ten version of Narrator might support scripting. I don't know the exact source behind this though.

The reason I say this is because I've tried the preview on Windows 10, and actually didn't feel the need to install NVDA until quite a while later. Narrator suited me fine for testing purposes. Yes, it could of course be miles better, but it's definitely getting there.

I know that the Windows 8 Narrator did not support iAccessible2, however I cannot tell with the one present in Windows 10 preview. However, firefox and Thunderbird do work to the point where I can read and reply to emails and browse the web...Of course, no quick navigation for headings, links and so on.

The main reason why I couldn't stand using it anymore is the simple fact that it seems to lag behind quite a bit. Compared to NVDA, Narrator still seems like a very slow reacting screen reader, especially with the default David voice.

It still lacks a lot of features though. No indentation reporting, no quick navigation in web elements, etc. It's quite stable though. And the fact you can toggle it with Win+Enter seems quite handy, especially since it seems to have higher priority, so it'll actually run when most things don't anymore.

Hi dragon and tward.
what you speak that the narrator makes in the preview of windows 10, he actually does it in the windows 8.1 before the preview of windows 10.
nothing new here.
I use windows 8.1 and the narrator makes everything you talked in
  windows 8.1. People want to know is whether the narrator in the windows 10 preview has been updated or remains as it is in the windows 8.1.

thanks.
cheers.

Hi,
This petition is, as others said before, not quite appropriate, based on what Microsoft is doing at the moment.
Narrator is rumoured to have scripting support in Windows 10. They are actually in contact with blind people, that is why the enormous improvement to Windows 8's Narrator, touchscreen support, etc. While Narrator is not yet comparable to other dedicated screen readers, it is certainly improving with Windows builds.
Microsoft is certainly not going to implement a new screen reader. They are working on Narrator, with or without the petition. I really urge you to, if not cancel it, perhaps wait a bit until we see what's going to happen in later builds of Windows 10.

Rob

How about making them create an installer that actually talks?
I mean installing Windows, not setting up your user account. THere is no reason they can't make a talking installer. I can't believe this. Apple has had a talking installer for 10 years, a shorter time than narrator has been around and yet the Windows installer doesn't talk and VoiceOver was miles better than narrator in 2005, heck even in 2007 with Leopard.

Hi.

I'm talking about installing a copy of Windows from scratch. If you're talking about opening a new Windows laptop and setting it up with narrator, that is not the same thing. That is narrator working on a copy of Windows that is already installed on the system. I'm talking about the part of setup where you would put your Windows DVD or such into the drive and go through the setup by choosing a drive to install WIndows and then waiting about 10 minutes. That part as far as I know doesn't talk. That is ridiculous in my mind because with OS X, I just have to load up the installer and I get VoiceOver which guides me through the OS X installer of choosing a drive to install on, etc. Again, this is not the same as getting a Mac and going through setup assistant or installing a new OS over the top. I'm talking about clean installing onto a computer. This is useful for instance if the hard drive fails or you did something really bad to your installation and need to reformat and install. Windows, as far as I know, does not let me do this because the installer doesn't talk. That is why I love oS X so much, I have far more independence.
Hopefully this explanation makes more sense.

ok, someone created the same petition in microsoft's own website. here's the link if anyone wants to vote. https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/26 … ader-to-wi

As others have stated, this pitition is a bit overkill. Narrator in the last versions of windows, while it does lack behind, is quite useable and i've used it fine before, even didn't really depend on nvda for a day while using it. As gortholon said, it does however seem to lag quite a lot, but narrators barely new with its upgrades since windows 8 came out, what was it, 2 years or so, I can't remember. Also, O S X and windows are 2 completely different things. While it would be nice to have an installer that talks, we're not quite up to that point, and before we even start asking for that or for a better screen reader, I really think we should wait for windows 10. After all, windows 8.1 wasn't really a major release, so of course their wouldn't be that menny narrator improvements. After all, developing a screen reader is no simpple thing.

I hope Microsoft will take this suggestions.