Hi,
That's the thing, I signed up for this a few minutes ago,while the interface is a bit complicated its usable,once you know how stuff works.
I clicked on a few npcs, and one of them was giveing me a quest,but I couldn't find the accept button link or whatever it is supposed to be anywhere. the only clickable thingy I found there was talk to this npcs later without makeing a decision.
And, is there a way to turn off that chat channel thing,or get it out of the way,at least.In the info tab I get all these different channels sending messeges,but if I switch to say,the quest tab,the channel name and the start of their messeges still remains. so that I have to read through a hole lot of bla bla channel and so on,before I can get to the quest info text.
Grryfindore.

Could someone help me with the toon creator? I'm really confused. All I can see  is just a combobox with some elements like race, age, classes and stuff like that.
But Where I can see the race types, classes etc? I focus the cursor on race in the combobox for example, but I can't find these races anywhere.

Hmm, in this combobox I don't see any types of races, just the category races. The same is ffor faction, classes and all stuff.

@bladestorm, you actually preempted me very much here, since those are exactly my problems with the game thus far.

When I said "simple" I meant mostly the fact that there is no real need to say navigate on a grid or choose actions, and that combat is automatic. To be honest I'll have a mess with the game, but I don't see myself playing it long term since I really miss games with actual real combat where you really have to attack things, indeed thiss modern trend of having games that function more and more automatically is really not one I like.

At least however if access for silver sword is fixed that's one game which is totally different, since there you have a full set of characters to choose actions, attacks and ranks for.

No, the game isn't %100 accessible thanks to the unlabled graphics, though I have notified the developers, albeit it is playable for what it is.

Btw, I can't take credit entirely for this one, since I believe bladestorm or possibly someone else informed me of it quite a long timer ago, I just never really checked the thing out seriously back then.

Actually bladestorm, my comments about automatic combat weren't just regarding text games but also some graphical rpgs, my brother for instance the other day was complaining about changes to later final fantasy games that made levelling and use of skills much less crucial.

it is certainly true that there still many graphical games around with complex combat systems, however certainly in the world of multiplayer games if they aren't real time action orientated like dark souls or diablo, then turn based combat is considdered pretty retro.

As regards text well yes and no. I've noticed that the demarkation line betwene casual gamers and hardcore is getting more distinct every day, and now there are far more games that just exist as you said for numbers or for social play, while really serious affairs tend to be minority.

I will agree that the view is skewed by viewing online games, since generally much of the serious stuff in rpg terms happens in single player games rather than multiplayer, indeed as I've said before I'd love to see more accessible single player games (one reason why I so much enjoy Kodp, and am looking forward to seeing silversword and startraders become accessible).

I can't speak for monster kingdom, but to be honest haypy monster just didn't give enough for me. Maybe if you can see the images it's a more fun game, but as it was the combat didn't seem too tactical, and there really wasn't much text, certainly not enough to warrent difficulties in playing the thing.

Part of the problem in fact as I've noticed before is that different gaming interests don't combine. Choiceofgames and the like are so wrapped in story they wouldn't considder a tactical combat element, while even the more complex online games like puppet nightmares are so into their cool artwork and tactics that they utterly miss text as a medium, despite the fact that there are! people who appreciate it (even if a minority among social gamers).

Franky it's considdering this situation that really makes me want to sit down and learn enough programming to actually create a semi decent game! .

Ah, didn't realize there was a chat command.

I've contacted the admins, and they said apparently lables for the map will be added to the todo list, which will help a lot since obviously it's easier to remember  places by name than simply how many unlabled javascript links they are down the page, ditto with quests (though there I have at least found the first option best).

Regarding links for quests it's actually a little weerd, since some of the quests I tried had them, some didn't, but that might be an ie issue if it's a plugin (silly firefox).

To be honest though I find at the moment I actually want something which can support the story a little better. seeing some immersive location and quest text then just waiting to see if my character wins, then  going through  equipment  is juzt  not what I want in a game at the moment, ---- don't know  why I'm just feeling quite dissatisfied.

Well I've tried all of those. Puppet nightmares has the best battle system but I wish things were more immersively described, KoL and it's clones (of which twilight heroes and metroplexity are examples), were nice ideas and even had some tactical combat but I just can't find myself mustering the dayly interest to play.

to be honest I think the problem is basically that I'm looking for a good single player game in brouser games and not finding it, since most brouser games (especially these days), are glorified social networks just about showing off the big numbers.

It's actually a shame nobody can produce a decent single player accessible rpg, --- or indeed something like pokemon, that would be great! no other players, just exploration, story and reasonable combat.

hi

the map is also no problem for me.

greetz mike

Hi,
I used to think that as well, until someone made that instant translate NVDA addon. No need to alt tab out of the game, it just does it by itself pretty much, you just press control plus nvda plus y and it translates the last bit of text that popped up, enter, and do that again, and it's pretty much instantanious unless the server has a bad day, which can happen sometimes, but it seems to be rather rare.

Perhaps you could rite some sort of guide on the translation thing, since  when i've tried in the past I've just been quite frustrated withy lots of stuff jabbering in japanese. It also doesn't help that there isn't particularly a coherent way to get information.

I suspect however the reason there are so many rpgs in japanese is more a matter of coding than anything else, since I know from the research I've done in retro gamees is that there are far more scripting options available in japanese, especially for rpgs.
I don't mean game creation programs, I mean specifically designed languages made just to make games, and even more specficially rpgs.

Ruby for instance I know is a form of perl script designed specifically in japan to have a very easy, python like syntax, and  functions to make specific rpg features such as turns, classes etc. I suspect that is the reason, simply more resources  available, ---- heck, look at how many games have been made with Bgt, then imagine that an rpg specific version had been available for years.
Though this does actually raise the point, perhaps if Philip extended bgt to some specific  rpg  functions such as automatically creating a turn based script and functions to track various important numbers and perform dice rolls, we'd see more in english.

@Grryf, the accept and decline links aren't actually links, they're image hotspots. With supernova they show up just underneith the quest text, and accept is the first one, though I suspect they are to one side and supernova is just using columnization.