There is clearly a complete and utter lack of anything vaguely resembling logic here.
This is a topic that should have been resolved years ago, and as it clearly hasn't something is weird.
In my mind Tristan, the person who actually coded the database, should do something about this. I'm going with the assumption that he hasn't, but correct me if I'm wrong.

When logging onto this mud, I don't see any code that's particularly new. It seems to be a re-itterative cycle that seems to continue every few months or so. The cosmos database is reuploaded, the flamewar lasts a few days to a few weeks, and then the entire debacle is lost to the mists of a lacking attention span.
If I was in a similar position I would code the mud in another language. The LD mud driver would even work here. Or optionally you could use c++ or code the space mechanics yourself, as if you are a
coder in moo code already then you have the required knowledge to do so.

There seems to be no organization here, and often there is contest as to who's actually developing anything or who's hosting anything. It would probably just be easier to lose the cosmos db in favor of coding one that actually works.

I'm gonna have to agree here with what's been said on cosmos. This is the hole reason I don't play muds anymore. And as for calling ethin a female, i'm prytty sure that's against the rules, but feel free to tell me so if i'm rong. But yes, it does seem as if every topic that gets posted here about cosmos is just simply a stock build with afew planets to try and hide the details.

I have no objection to people using cosmos, you can use it as much as you like. In fact I would have never posted on this fourm thread but I was dragd into the argument by dglex mentioning my name, and I had to clear things up seeing as I have a history of starting projects but never finishing them, or posting too early. Despite what one may think, I'm in no way with vast space, and I have nothing to do with it apart from that hole coding thing I posted in post 25. I have moved on from moos, and have now learned bgt. So, this will be my last post on the matter, and I would highly apreeshiate it if dglex wouldn't drag me into this topic. Just saying. And dglex, I have to agree with hadi. Calling a guy a female is in no way funny or insulting, it just makes you look more unprofessional to would be players of your moo.

Oh my god Ethin. I can't believe someone as stupid as you is still alive. Unlike you, I actually know how to code in MOO. Unlike you, I don't sit on my ass all day playing around with pointless softwhere that no one in their right mind uses. Unlike you, I don't get my face into stuff just for the heck of it. Come back to me when you've grown some brains, and then maybe we can discuss this.

OMG Daniel! I've never heard of someone as fucking dumb as you! First of all, you sit on your ass all day, using a pointless program. Oh, and no one's on your side her. I've heard your announcements. There quite stupid, actually. If you want players to join your game, then! Fucking! Grow! Up! Your acting like a 2 year old here! And its not acceptable! Wouldn't most of you here agree that daniel is acting like a fucking dumb ass?
First of all daniel, I in fact like to learn new programming languages and learn how to do other things. Unlike you, I actually want to sit back and learn something new. Unlike you, I actually have a brain. Unlike you, I actually know more than you. All you know how to do is attempt to make a fool of yourself and lie. Yes, daniel, your a fag, and I don't care about you, no one does.
Dark, take care of this bitch.

For the record, I said I would code you a space system, I didn't say I would code you an awesome stile miriani clone. And I only agreed to it because you told me I was waisting my life not coding. I coded you a space system, on another db which you fail to use because i'm not your main coder. Seriously, this is getting old. Can we please drop the topic before we do start another flaim war?

Daniel, your not fixing things between anyone. Your in fact creating a giant pit and your falling in farther and farther. Enough with that shit of yourself. Your very unprofessional about this.
At least I
Know how to code HTML
Know how to administrate games, you do not, it seems like, unfortunately. You have no luck at all. Your quite worthless.
I also
Know how to code in C++, LPC, etc.
And a lot more that you'd never dream of.

Right. But that's the only way to get rid of dgleks. He says that he knows C++ which he does not know. He's so dumb that he asks other people to code for him. If he wants to make a game, then he should right his own game from scratch, starting from the game server and going upwards from there. I am tired of this bullshit and it needs to stop. If daniel wants to act professional, I ask him to do the following:
@dgleks
Do the following to be truly professional.
1. Get rid of cosmos. Use a type of shredder or permanently delete it. Here's how
rm -rf <directoryname*>
For example
rm -rf /home/username/cosmos*
or
rm -rf /root/cosmos
2. Get rid of his so called modified gamma moo.
3. Rewrite the server and really make it your own creation. Modify everything, or, even better, learn C++ and write your own server from scratch. The server main file should either be a makefile
Go into your folder and type
autoconf
then
automake
or a .cbp, .cpp, or .c file. Make sure its got a .h file too.
If using makefiles, when you update them after modifying a file by using
autoupdate
and then
autorescan
You also might want to make the master C++ server file <servername>.cpp, <servername>.cbp, or <servername>.c. You have to know C++.
For the .cbp file extension, you have to have code blocks. It supports many different languages, including ADA, Angel script, C++/C, D#, Fortran75 and fortran95, HTML, and a lot more. The download link for that is
http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/ … -setup.exe
Note! Your server will need a configure script. The autoconf utility does this for you.
At the end of C++ creation of your server files, make sure it compiles correctly either with warnings or without any warnings by using the following command, if supported by your makefile.
first,
make
then, optionally,
rm -rf *.o
Don't do this if your server needs object files!
Then, run
make install
then
make clean
These commands will optimize your server so it runs correctly. To run all of these at once, run
make;rm -rf *.o;make install;make clean
You don't have to use the rm -rf *.o command but it is recommended as to save disk space. Some .o files can take up a lot of disk space.
That's all I'll say about this.

Lol, this got out of hand quicker than i could read the thread. Nice catch nocturnus. Any other mods care to fill me in on the history of the mud code base? I know it has instilled a lot of hate amoung many people but why?