2011-02-20 17:06:04

hi.. what's happening with the blind mice mart site? i am interested to see the movie vault but the site don't works... it shows that the page cann not be displayed... i tryed from 2 computers and it did the same... what's up with the site? does any one knows?

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2011-02-20 18:18:51

its down.

f.a.t.h.e.r

2011-02-21 16:55:43

It's generally best to wait at least a few days before worrying about a site too much. Sites do go down, technical issues do happen.

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2011-02-21 17:20:49

well apparently they were converting their movie vault to an ftp site with database and all. all for the better. maybe the downtime is temporary. Or possibly the BBC may have something to do with it, since they took some of their dvs work and apparently they're not too happy about people doing that.

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2011-02-23 13:43:54

They might have gotten busted. Wouldn't surprise me given the openness of the site, nice initiative but quite illegal.

2011-02-23 14:53:23

Hi,
Um...
Just how is that illegal? Seems as if their site was so "open" that they'd have gotten busted when they started, if it were illegal.

Best Regards,
Hayden

2011-02-23 18:43:51

I  just checked the site is back up.
I  think if someone were to bust them in my oppinion, it would be wrong. I  mean all their trying to do is to give those with little to no sight the same chance of enjoying a  movie as everyone else. I  wonder how many dissability rights groups would be down someones throat if that ever happened?
Just my two cents.

Audio game king

2011-02-23 19:42:01

Hi,
A good two cents that is. I'm sure they would spend more money keeping the site shut down thabn leaving it alone.

Best Regards,
Hayden

2011-02-23 21:18:25

I wouldn't say it's fully fixed. while people in the US can access it I'm trying here, so is matheus aka drg, and we can't get to it either directly to the vault or via the main bmm site.

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2011-02-23 22:55:47

Just wanted to comment on the illegality post above real quick. No matter how you twist it, the law's the law and all that. Distributing copyrighted works, either in whole or in part, is illegal.
Not saying that I agree with it, but that's how it works.
It doesn't matter that we're disabled, we do not get special treatment. The trouble is that there's not a proper way of distributing audio described movies, so the only option left, at least for those of us outside the US, is to acquire them in other ways.
Being blind, however, does not put us above the law. If they found out, they would sue you into oblivion. They won't care if you're lacking sight, if you're in a wheelchair or if you're disabled any other way. I'm not preaching here, but thinking blind people won't be sued is just ignorant.
Please note that I'm not trying to be a dick here, just wanted to throw in my $0.02.

Malthe.

2011-02-24 06:27:15

Malthe:
While in general I see your point please leave off the language. Saying you're not trying to offend anyone would be quite sufficient, you don't need to be anatomically specific.

As regards the point about no method existing, plenty of suitable methods exist they just choose not to use them. There is no reason they couldn't sell an alternative audio described version on iTunes for example, which is quite usable outside of the US, after all there have been examples of movies which have had both original language and dubbed versions available on iTunes. It is quite possible to have audio description on DVDs, some even do, but even when the audio description has already been created for use in cinemas it often doesn't make it onto the DVD.

Additionally I'd like to point out that it would have been very easy for DVDs to include text labels for the menu options somewhere in the information used, which could then be picked up on by software. Sure you'd need specialised DVD playback software but it would have been trivial for Apple for example to include it as part of their accessibility commitment. Unfortunately the DVD standard was designed without this so we're sort of stuck.

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2011-02-24 13:29:00

cx2, indeed. My apologies.
Exactly. There are plenty of oprotunities, what I ment was that noone uses them. As you rightly say, you could quite easyly implement audio description, and it\s been done. Just not in very many cases, which is a shame, since the description agency\s work just goes to waste.

2011-02-24 15:12:17 (edited by phalos 2011-02-24 15:14:51)

I was often curious about the non-DVS material on the Movie Vault, such as movie soundtracks, and Audio Commentaries. I would not be surprised if someone started to complain about such materials.

PS - Site is up as of 24 FEB. There's always the BBC Iplayer for DVS material, if you're desperate enough. (Yes, you can access iPlayer DVS outside the UK.)

Cheers,

2011-03-06 17:14:34

so i begin to worry now... it was a long time sinse the site closed.... what's up with it? did they realy closed it for ever? and if that happned can some one recommend me an other way to find movies with audio description? because that was the only way that i knew to find movies audio described. and here in my country those movies don't exist at all... thanks

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2011-03-13 18:28:35

i am desperate... the site has not come up yet.... and i have a bad feeling about this..... does some one knows other sites or other methods to get some movies to look at? please help me... i am from europe and here we don't have audio described movies...
thanks

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2011-03-14 12:35:42

i can only recomend this: they are great, you can ask for dvs movies, non dvs material, tvshows, dvs or only mp3, no videos required. sign up in this group. i am there too.
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f.a.t.h.e.r

2011-03-14 22:22:51 (edited by bryant 2011-03-14 22:24:07)

The blind mice mart is not closing. They are building a new website and it says that it should be opened in april some time.

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2011-03-15 19:40:18

realy? that's a very good... i am glad to hear that it will open....

thanks guys for all the help...

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2011-05-15 17:21:56

Hi,
I still can't access the site. Has their address changed with the new website?
Regards
Alice

2011-05-16 09:51:14

Hi.
If you don't live in the USA then you won't be able to access the site.
You could use some proc server which is based in US to access the site,however.
HTH.Grryf.

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2011-07-11 15:57:13

The opening date I've seen on the Blindmice website is Jul 8. That's passed, and nothing yet. Also, I'm in the US and can't access the movie vault either. Very sad situation. The odd thing is I can access it from my netbook, but not my PC which is on the same ISP. Weird, no? Any thoughts on this? Perhaps some tips on BBC's iPlayer? Thanks loads!
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2011-07-12 12:58:32

I can access the movie valt, but only with internet explorer. if you try it with firefox or any of it's varients, you'll just get a blank page with the address of the movie valt and nothing else. Faulty html coding I guess. or maybe it was designed taht way. also btw someone should inform them that the eclipse mp3 is not on sendspace. the link for it is there, but the file is not.  sorry if I seem a bit sharp, haven't had my morning coffee yet grins.

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2011-07-12 22:41:28

Well its, at least, good to see that, after all, it works outside the US. One question: I'm new to the blind mice mart. Do I need to subscribe anywhere to get some of the older movies? I can get the latest additions, but when I enter on some of the letters, it says members only. I don't see a register link, but that may be because the site is not properly up and running yet.

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2011-07-13 11:24:29

hi guys. i live in romania outside US. i can't access the site. what's up with it? the opening date has passed by some days... does any one has some new information about this site? if yes please help..

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2011-07-13 14:25:35 (edited by bcs993 2011-07-13 14:26:39)

Hi,
Don't know why the site isn't open yet, but I know the movie volt is supposed to work, but as mentioned in a previous post, you must use internet explorer.
Here in South Africa, it works just fine, so it should work anywhere else as well.
HTH

Brendan
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