2016-03-27 11:40:55

What does the "af" mean?

2016-03-27 14:57:31 (edited by Socheat 2016-03-27 14:58:29)

wow, @post125, this is fun. didn't know about it. mewhahahahaha.
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2016-03-28 16:05:51

A is the prefix for tonal tags, `af means to use a falling intonation for the next word, there are a couple, I don't know them all, `as is a funny one, it's called scoop, it sounds quite childish, you really need speak window / elocutor to take advantage of these.

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2016-03-28 17:19:57 (edited by Shadowcat 2016-03-28 17:25:49)

how did nobody mention these until just now? lol
also @tjt holy shit! that's actually really frickin impressive, you can tell the actual pitching portion was done using either a vocoder or some sort of autotune though, but that doesn't make the rest of it any less impressive since they still managed to match rhythm, mix it in and all that

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2016-03-29 02:58:13

Yeah, that video was a nice one.

2016-03-29 03:03:53

Also, one of my favorite things to use is eloquence phonemes like `[O], `[o] `[A] etc. I'd put more, but the forum gives me errors for some reason.

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2016-03-29 03:05:33

And as for tones, ar is a rising tone, af is falling, ah is a high tone, `ad is a "downstep" tone, and al is a low tone.

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2016-03-29 07:40:30

Another idea that I was thinking of for how they got the pitches to match was that they recorded it all and then edited out the parts of silence where Eloquence changes pitch.

2016-03-29 08:04:26

What is a vocoder?

2016-03-29 18:33:18 (edited by Shadowcat 2016-03-29 18:37:17)

google is your friend, tongue
as for the video, I directly asked and they directly admitted it was using a program, not what you think it is unfortunately
even before that though I knew it couldn't be hand written, because for those who know what I'm talking about it had the autotune sound

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2016-03-30 04:31:08

guys, that song was recorded in an app called songify. No work was put into it.

2016-03-30 04:38:09

yeah like I said, if you look in the comments I asked how it was done, the person who made it directly said to me they used a program to do it

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2016-03-30 09:12:44

Well, you can tell I'm not very educated about this sort of thing. As for the "hundreds of hours" I mention above, that really should be "hundreds of miliseconds".

2016-03-30 10:38:23 (edited by Slender 2016-03-30 10:43:38)

Have a look at this one. This was made by simply copying juarasjuaras several times and pasting it, inserting some extra ee's in it. Still, the results are interesting. This is in my folder in the DECtalk archive as well. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub8fo0muz7rb7 … e.wav?dl=1 I don't have the code anymore, though. sad

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2016-03-30 16:27:08

@tjt well having said that it doesn't necessarily mean there was no work put into it, I can't say though because I've never used melodyne, or even heard of it before now so I don't know what it's capabilities are

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2016-03-31 03:00:11

Hi,
Hmm, songify? haven't heard of that app before.

2016-03-31 19:13:19 (edited by Shadowcat 2016-03-31 19:17:59)

@139 holy! how... did you do that? would you mind posting the text itself? this would be so much fun to mess with people with
well actually I managed to create the general sound, but I can't get it to make that exact same pattern

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2016-04-01 04:12:04 (edited by Slender 2016-04-01 04:16:16)

And here goes my best attempt at replicating it. Enjoy! `vs30 `vf100 `vb100 e juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas `vs0 `vf0 `vb0 splat! `v1 `vf30 `vb60 Just be careful not to overload the synthesizer with too many juarasjuarases.

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2016-04-01 05:52:15

thanks, lol I still wonder why the juaras/juas thing works in the first place though

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2016-04-01 12:05:50 (edited by Slender 2016-04-01 12:15:23)

I think k_jones did explain his own theory about what might cause it; that it has something to do with vowels. What's interesting is that in the version of eloquence bundled with IBM desktop reader, it doesn't seem to work. Did you know that if you apply a pitch at the beginning and end, you can get eloquence to glide up or down? Like this. ‵vb0 e juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ‵vb100 ee e juarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ‵vb0 e juarasjuarasjuarasjuarasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuasjuas ‵vb0.

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2016-04-02 01:16:44

yooooo that's cool! did you just experiment and figure that out?
does anyone who uses NVDA know how to make it so that it doesn't read the backquote tags before they'll actually take affect? or is there no way to make it stop doing that with some of them

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2016-04-02 04:30:36 (edited by Slender 2016-04-02 04:38:46)

There's a way. There's an add on on Jeff's site, called togglex. If you press NVDA+0 and d, to toggle the speech dictionary, it will not announce backquotes. It can be downloaded from http://***/Add-Ons/toggleX.nvda-addon. Also, I have a modified version of eloquence that doesn't just support backquotes, but it also supports graavs too! Here it is. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3fvqvhsjt8x12 … addon?dl=1 Also, be sure to find the ` symbol in NVDA's symbol pronunciation dialog, and set preserve to always. And there's actually a reason why backquotes are announced. The issue is that there's a file in NVDA's program directory, called builtin.dic. It breaks apart words with numbers in it, plus other things, and this causes problems when you're trying to send embedded commands to synthesizers. By toggling the speech dictionary, NVDA will simply pass everything to the synthesizer as it appears.

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2016-04-02 05:23:50

Hey, how about jaws? when I tried put some backquote commands, jaws announce it everytime.

2016-04-02 05:27:51

No, as far as I know, there's no way to do it through JAWS.

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2016-04-02 05:28:18

wow, cool! I'm curious though, how did you get NVDA to use graavs too, did you just put in a dictionary thing that makes it think that a graav is a backquote?

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