I also suggest jugglers, sword swallower's, fire eaters/fire dancers, traveling blademasters who challenge your champion (you could get extra popularity for winning and a decrease for losing, bigger for rejecting the fight), simple randomly generated plays and dances, etc.
For some of these things, like jugglers, sword swallower's, magicians, fire eaters, acrobats etc, it would be cool if you would basically get some text about them doing their thing, then you hit enter to see what happens, that way it adds suspense.
Also some randomization e.g. maybe the juggler one time is juggling something dangerous like daggers or lit lanterns or sharpened fans, and you have to pay more for it, but if they fuck up then the text can be over the top and amusing. lol
Also maybe randomly colored materials, scarves, balls, wooden or clay discs, fruits, red green one time, blue red the next, yellow purple the next? doesn't have to be just 2 colors each time but you get the idea, also maybe gold/silver coins?
And yes, I do realize that this is getting past the alternative to bards territory. 
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#776 2017-11-11 03:12:25
#777 2017-11-11 12:51:04
yeah but this are very cool suggestions and they would ensure that nobody is missing something out. Great ideas, i like them.
#778 2017-11-11 13:25:41
@niklas, I was thinking about that the other day, different music for different locations and regions, ie the south, the north, the east and west, and then of course different ones for the throne room, the arena, battles ect
I can't find the words 'vision to fight' in the games files?
We've already got cemeteries and villages, I like the idea of some old ancient tombs though!
As for the wastes, I loved that game, I had planned it for years, I had spent months and months of work on it from the moment I woke to the moment I slept, but the game is gone, so I'd have to start from scratch, it would be such a long process.
I'm definitely open to working on a new one in the distant future, but for now warsim is my focus, people have supported me financially on the premise warsim will be a finished game, I can't rest until I have achieved that!
I am currently in the process of saving to go on a big trip for a long time, I'll be taking my laptop with me so I should be keeping the game updated, but I've been working really hard to save up to go, working 9-5 in an office, then coming home and running two online stores, maintaining a youtube channel, running a clothing brand, developing and promoting warsim as well as trying to keep up with cryptocurrency prices and doing day trading, I'm not super successful but putting all my eggs in different baskets has proven to be a good strategy, I have overworked myself though, I am 100% positive I couldn't keep all this up and work on a second game, I think I'd die!
Either way I'm happy to know that the wastes is still something that get's thought about every now and then! It means a lot
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#779 2017-11-11 18:27:57
the plan for the music is coool. Yes, I agree on the fact that having warsim as focus and main priority is a good idea. Hmm, that's strange that you can't find the word. The throne room encounter I mean is about a man who has visions to fight for his land I think, or was it to fight for you? Hmm.
#780 2017-11-11 23:37:31
@Wastelander,
I've actually ended up throwing together a "client" of sorts for the wastes because I (and a friend) play it so much. There are amazing things you can make happen with a little time and a good coder willing to help get you off the ground (stdout to TCP wrapper? not me!). I've managed to do a lot of cool stuff, including add sounds to some events, keep track of a whole bunch of statistics not included in the graveyard file and even finish adding merchant genders to the game.
#781 2017-11-12 00:05:07
@wastelander: The music idea sounds cool. For spooky places, caves and such, the music tracks could even change to darker and scary or spooky music. I think that would fit well there.
#782 2017-11-12 01:14:29
@John, Are you serious! Please can I see this, that sounds amazing!
@Niklas, definitely, I'd love for more atmosphere, It'll be a difficult one though cause it'll have to be low quality songs, or short loops, because there would likely be so many, for example blackmarket, the near north, the wild north, the drylands, the southern coast, the western swamp, the throne room, the arena, battle, final battles and so on.
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#783 2017-11-12 02:01:58
that wouldn't be an issue for me personally. And it would be great to be able to adjust the volumes of the sounds and music seperately.
#784 2017-11-12 03:32:39
I never did understand why it had to be low quality or nothing.
Is their some kind of size limit imposed by itch.io or steam?
Otherwise, you should just offer two versions, because many people would be fine downloading 50mb or more, but I do understand the wish to keep a text based game small and for people with low internet speeds to download it without waiting for hours.
Still, it seems a little silly to reduce the quality so much when even flash drives from 5 years ago could hold this with relative ease.
You could also consider trying to integrate an .ogg library, since you can make things sound quite good in ogg even at like 112kbps.
#785 2017-11-12 03:40:06
good point. I would have no problem if the game gets big in size especially if you consider the ammount of things it offers. Two versions could be an alternative, but I would download the high quality one defenately.
#786 2017-11-12 03:53:59 (edited by Wastelander 2017-11-12 03:54:32)
@Defender, only reason I'm conscious of it is that at one point with about 4 songs on there in wav format the game was at 200mb, beyond that having another 10-20 songs could push it in the gigabyte region, I had a few complaints from players last time about the download size being way too big when it was 200mb so I managed to shrink it.
As for two versions I tried something similar with the wastes and it becomes a headache to maintain due to the frequency of the updates
I will definitely be looking at maintaining as much sound quality as I can in the process
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#787 2017-11-12 10:50:55
Hi.
@Wastelander, This is sounding amazing, but for some odd reason Itch.io still isn't working properly. I also tried on my laptop but no go, goodness knows what the issue is.
if you let me know where to send Cash via paypal I will be glad to contribute 10 quid since I love the direction of this and can't wait to play the updated version, though I do hope sending me a copy of the game won't mean more work, since it's sounds like you'e got a lot going on, especially with the frequency of updates.
Either way please drop me an email on dark at x g a m dot org and I'll gladly discuss the matter.
As to The Wastes, I absolutely love! that game. Even if a new version isn't possible, it'd be nice to have a final version with all the packs, new items etc that were added as a final download.
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)
#788 2017-11-12 13:32:58
@Dark Email Sent! That's a shame about itch.io though...
And that's a great idea, so I've done it, I've tweaked the files today and added some extra items, gonna release a new update version of the wastes as a sort of Anniversary Edition? cause some people apparently still play it and like it! 
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#789 2017-11-12 13:36:07
Firstly for those who are following on Warsim, sorry for crossing the two projects over, but I know that lots of Warsim players also played the wastes, so here's a little something.
it's been years since the game was lost, but following some recent discussion on here post I have decided it would be a good idea to release an updated warsim download that includes all the mods made for the game merged into it giving a sort of, Anniversary Edition style update to the game.
Here are the mods that are included:
**GEMS GLORIOUS GEMS**
'Gems Glorious Gems' Adds 43 new items to the misc items file which due to the nature of the game results in 549067 brand new randomly generated items in your game.
Now you will find Sapphires, Diamonds and other gemstones in your world to trade with or collect, most will be of high value and will be worth carrying with you across the wastes.
**JUNK ITEM PACK**
'Junk Item Pack' Adds 14 new misc items to the game, which includes, parts of a broken fan, pens, wall screws that can be turned into lockpicks, foreign coins, beer mats and a message in a bottle, just some more general junk for you to find while exploring!
**ANTIQUE COLLECTORS MOD**
'Antique Collectors Mod' Adds 12 new misc item conditions to the MiscConditions.txt file, and as always due to the nature of the game it results in over a million new items, more specifically, fake and antique versions of every item in the game. And it's worth noting the more item mods you have in your game the more this number increases as this allows for special versions of all mod added misc items too.
Now you will find Fake Heirlooms and Antique Whistles and all kinds of useless crap in the wastes that you can trade or collect.
**GAINS MOD**
'Gains Mod' Adds 3 new misc items to the Misc.txt file, and as always due to the nature of the game it results in tons of new items, more specifically, new 2kg, 4kg and 500kg dumbells.
Now you will find the world record 500kg dumbell and some more smaller little dumbells to help you train when you are weak.
**GOLD MOD**
'Gold Mod' Adds 2 new misc item conditions to the MiscConditions.txt file, and as always due to the nature of the game it results in tons of new items, more specifically, solid gold items and gold plated items.
Now you will find Solid Gold Guitars and Gold Plated Shin bones among other crap.
**NEW ITEM CONDITIONS MOD**
'New Item Conditions Mod' Adds 4 new item conditions, futuristic and three smelling conditions, not a substantial mod but every little helps!
**FOOD AND ART MODPACK**
'The Food and Art Modpack' Adds a bunch of new foods, food conditions, food companies, greetings to the splash screen and additionally a new item type, 'Paintings' which are just images instead of books
**NEW ITEM CONDITIONS MOD V2**
This mod was made especially for this update, it adds a bunch of new item conditions which result in millions of new items in game, these include blood stained items, durable items and tacky items!
Download here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwlopec6ay91a … n.rar?dl=1
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#790 2017-11-12 14:59:37 (edited by john 2017-11-12 15:04:24)
@Wastelander,
First off let me say that I'm thrilled to see new wastes info. It may not be code, but adding new content is awesome.
If you're really interested in checking out the "pack", can you give me an email address?
There's a fairly substantial amount of setup required at the moment, and while I'm sure we can get it working, I'd rather not try to do so for more than one person at a time (I started making it for myself so I didn't have to be in a terminal window, and its got all the marks of hastily written code).
As for the music size issue - yes. Use .ogg files. You can find a dll decoder at: https://blastbay.com/oggdec.php
I couldn't test on warsim, but I believe all the audio in the Wastes will fit in under 10mb after conversion (I downsampled it to 22.05khz a while ago so my testing is not necessarily accurate, but all the music was 2.85mb in ogg versus 40 in wav).
#791 2017-11-12 15:39:52
@John, my email address is [email protected]
I'm interested to see this!
Hope you like the new items and splashes and stuff, it adds over 10 million new items in total among other stuff so it's a decent little addition.
As for the ogg stuff, the way the system works, the system can only read wav files to my knowledge cause I had issues before with ogg and mp3 and would need to put in a whole new sound system and external library to get it to work which have little experience in, definitely something I'm going to do in the future though
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
Itch.io Version of Warsim (0.7) - https://huw2k8.itch.io/warsim
#792 2017-11-12 16:55:42
Hope development of the upcoming Warsim update goes well. I am excited what you have put in wich i'll love. Keep it up man, you're doing a great job.
#793 2017-11-12 21:56:37
A suggestion for diabolical kings: If you trow someone into a dungeon, maybe it could be possible to watch what the prisoners do. You could even build traps into the dungeons, send monsters in and such and watch what the prisoners do. Will they fight and try to escape or will they be killed brutaly? And if they try to escape, how they will try that and maybe come out of traps and such. Would be interesting I think.
#794 2017-11-13 01:19:18
BTW: Is the low quality issue only for the music or for the sound effects as well? I have an idea, maybe it would be possible to download the high quality packs if wished and to implement them then, I mean that you could replace the low Quality with the high quality yourself.
#795 2017-11-13 09:15:45
I'm just trying the game out now, I love the exploring and random events.
One question I do have is whether there is a way to lower the music volume as there was in the wastes. The music is great, but it's a wee bit loud as compared to my synth voice.
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)
#796 2017-11-13 09:59:51
That's why I suggested to make that possible. I have the same problem, but to my knowledge adjusting the volume of sounds and Music seperately isn't possible yet. Hopefully this gets added, it would be very usefull.
#797 2017-11-13 11:47:55
BTW: Glad you could recieve the game without itch.io dark, I thought to me that you'll love the added things though. Would have been a shame to miss out all of this.
#798 2017-11-13 12:08:02
Thanks niclas, the Itch.io thing is really annoying, and I have no idea what is going wrong there since other bits of the site ( the payment process for code 7), were absolutely fine, it's craaaazy.
Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be
That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)
#799 2017-11-13 14:39:40
yeah, that realy isn't nice from them. However, great that you have it now.
#800 2017-11-13 19:39:59
@Defender, sorry for ignoring your earlier comment, just saw it, love the idea of the jugglers and fire dancers, I like the idea of the text pauses to add suspense, I could add a number of things that could happen instead of what is expected! Spices things up a bit and will give the world more character!
@Niklas, thanks man, it's taking longer than expected with the new Warsim update but it's due to the fact every update is now focused and themed instead of just random stuff so It makes each update feel special, like a DLC pack!
I've got some plans for some sick things you'll be able to do with prisoners in this new update actually!
The downloading separate sound packs is one thought!
@Dark, Hmm, good point, it worked well in the wastes, I'll look into this
@Niklas, due to the nature of the system it would have to turn the volume up to a preset each time it played sounds and turn it down to a preset each time it played music, which is do-able, so I'll look into having separate volumes
Steam version of Warsim (0.7) - http://store.steampowered.com/app/65954 … na/?beta=0
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