2018-11-05 12:35:53

they do. and that is public knowledge, as some of the any audio recordings of the admins has been using the beta server. I could probably even send links proving public knowledge. again, I don't really have any insider knowledge, but trust me, there is a beta server.

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2018-11-05 14:53:45

Personally I uninstalled the game, and I doubt I will redownload it even after jail time is over. But even if I do come back, I'll never ever spend even a penny on that game again. Why would you support a project when the people responsible of it treat you like shit?

I once had a dream, in which Goku never went super saiyan after krillin's death, and ran away from frieza, got on his spaceship and left namek.

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2018-11-05 16:03:19

OMG. Thank god i didn't spend money on that game. meh to my friends who donated.

flawless victory!

2018-11-05 16:05:08

seems a weekend totally off, sprouted some intresting facts. Let's start off shall we:
1. yes, jailing is annoying, could even be seen as unfair, but if you'd go and read the rules, you'll discover that the alternative would have been a lot worse. To my mind, we've obted for the lowest possible punishment.
2. The bug in question: yes we might have been able to stop it, and yes, we could have entered descriptions for everything. Some things were just forgotten, part of human nature i guess.
3. If the bug would have been used say 20 times by as much people, it would have been a different story, but we're talking several hundreds or even thousands of times. I'll quickly count... lets see: 9700 uses out of one bug, without anyone realizing it's a bug... I do know out of reports however that a few people already did realise it was a bug, and my guess would be that it passed hands without reporting anything. Yes, it did resotre health up to 1200, etc, but that still doesn't mean it was a serious issue. Yes, we "fucked up" in all honesty, but that doesn't mean players aren't to be blamed for not reporting it. I get that you guys could have thaught it was ment to be that way, and up to a certain point i do get that, but if every single bit of food goes out of your inventory, there would be one that wouldn't disappear?

This is going to be all for now, if I find anything that still needs a reaction, i'll be sure to get back.

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2018-11-05 16:55:51

heard there was an update, so about to check it out, but I must say, the jailing for this new item bug was very juvenile. from what it seems, it didn't give players a big advantage, and it was something minor, warnings should have been issued out at the most. you guys definitely jumped the gun with this ruling and I really feel bad for the ones serving jail time.

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2018-11-05 17:01:51

smoothgunner wrote:

heard there was an update, so about to check it out, but I must say, the jailing for this new item bug was very juvenile. from what it seems, it didn't give players a big advantage, and it was something minor, warnings should have been issued out at the most. you guys definitely jumped the gun with this ruling and I really feel bad for the ones serving jail time.

Not a big advantage? Being able to restore your health to 1200 at all times, without having lost the item, seems like a big deal to me. Every time you went to the gift shop, gass station, fell down somewhere etc... always being able to get back to 1200 is sort of bad. If it were a few people, then warnings might have been enough but it already spredded more than far enough to warrant jail to my mind, and we collectivly decided the corse of action.

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2018-11-06 03:35:07 (edited by UltraLeetJ 2018-11-06 04:01:05)

oh wow. Read some posts in here and now I understand most things. Besides The whole thing being so unrealistic and unplayable, couple all of that with immortal admins a rather immature bunch for a community, many bugs, a terribly slow download speed for the massive installer  and its a perfect disaster of a game. Happily uninstalling now.

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2018-11-06 06:10:09

downloaded the update, and I'm trying to turn down the master volume, but shift end/page down  isn't working, any ideas on what I can do??? no way I can play the game at the volume its at now

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2018-11-06 11:32:52

@smoothgunner : I have exactly the same probleme since the update, and till now I haven't had any answer here or in the stw community.
Note that my bug isn't completely similar to yours, as it seems like only the music volume is concerned to me. If the master volume of the game is the probleme to you, the positive thing is that your general volume settings can do the trick. IN staid of calibrating the volume in the game itself, try to do it in your sound manager, which I can't do myself, as only the music volume seems to be buggy.

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Simon

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2018-11-06 14:45:56

the auto updater wouldn't be slow itself, except the game itself is like 600 MB now. as for the master volume issue, do you guys have physical home/end, and page up/down, or are you combining it with the function key and arrows?

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2018-11-06 15:23:47

after reading couples of post from my perspective it seem admin using their power than there should do in meat bug
I have one question before people was jailing does the admin give warning when one of admin online
if not it seem you are using your power againt player in term of "bug report advantage" I know if they use and stop it should be fine but give some warning so they know what they do is not allow
about item description you said that you are forgotten because human nature I as a player would ask as soon as you remember why not write any description for telling player so they know info
if anything not clear please ask me I will respond as soon as I read your post

the bestest reward for people who are working so hard they should receive their experience of their own life.
everyone can collect in everyday.
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2018-11-06 17:08:55

Hello!
@Braille0109 : actually I don't have any of this two options. My keyboard is a really strange one, and has no end button, only a home one. So I had to configure one by substituing one key for another with sharpkeys. In every other software, it behaves like an end key, but not in stw.

Best regard,
Simon

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2018-11-06 20:28:51 (edited by braille0109 2018-11-06 20:29:13)

3337. what happens if you mess around with the key config of STW? also, just because you don't have an end key, does FN down arrow, by some miricle not act as an end key? I have a laptop, with an internal keyboard, which, while it has a home and an end key, I can do FN + down arrow which will also perform the end function. using sharp keys to remap won't work, since STW, to be more specific, BGT has it's own key mappings. in other words, whatever you remap, will not work in STW, unless key config in question is used.

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2018-11-06 21:45:22

I can confirm peaches theory by telling you that i did remap several keys on my macbook air, and alas, i can't use them in stw. I am forced to use the regular "windows called" alt key, even if shar keys forces windows to believe that's my context menu key... lol

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2018-11-06 21:49:24 (edited by criticview 2018-11-06 21:53:59)

wightfall wrote:

after reading couples of post from my perspective it seem admin using their power than there should do in meat bug
I have one question before people was jailing does the admin give warning when one of admin online
if not it seem you are using your power againt player in term of "bug report advantage" I know if they use and stop it should be fine but give some warning so they know what they do is not allow
about item description you said that you are forgotten because human nature I as a player would ask as soon as you remember why not write any description for telling player so they know info
if anything not clear please ask me I will respond as soon as I read your post

The main issue was that, as far as we knew, the bug was already purposfully spredding. Meaning, that, people not only used it, but used it on purpose, forcing us to take a more drastic action. If, as you said, the bug would have been on a small scale, and people stumbling on it by accident, then warnings would have worked just fine. However, I'm having a difficult time believing that 67 players, just stumbled on it by accident. Yes, 67, because thanks to the log we could track down exactly who, and how often, exploited the whole thing, without, and this I checked too, any single report what so ever that there might be something strange going on. To be as transparant, without spilling the beans on who or how many, those 67 people were split up into 3 categories:
- less than 50: might be accidental, unawareness, or just rotten luck
- between 50 and 250: defenatly aware something is rong, just failing to report, and or, knowing full well it was something that could be rong, not bothering to report.
- above 250: defenatly sure they knew it could have been broken, without asking or reporting anything, and defenatly exploiting it to their own advantage.

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2018-11-06 22:58:23

I tried switching p to q on PK, before we had a key config. my new q, at the place of p, and my new p at the place of q, on STW, did still not work. in other words, q, at the place of p on my keyboard was still tracking PK, not my new PK p on the left hand side. I don't know much about BGT to be able to explain, but yeah. don't bother remapping because of STW.

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2018-11-07 05:18:08

braille0109 wrote:

I tried switching p to q on PK, before we had a key config. my new q, at the place of p, and my new p at the place of q, on STW, did still not work. in other words, q, at the place of p on my keyboard was still tracking PK, not my new PK p on the left hand side. I don't know much about BGT to be able to explain, but yeah. don't bother remapping because of STW.

Maybe what they can do is to add a key manager into STW so that we can change the keys to our own preference. With so many type of laptop keyboards emerging in the market one could not help but to adjust to certain ways of using the keyboard.

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2018-11-07 08:52:15

Hi braille0109.
Thanks for the explaining about the key mapping. Then I was playing the game on my Macbook Air, I couldn't hold down the G key and use page down to scan below me. It was quite dangerous in some situations. Can the key mapper in STW fix that in any ways?

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2018-11-07 11:07:50

As SLJ wrote, thanks. I'll check out the effect of fn+arrow keys. The probleme with the key config is that the music volume settings, for unknown reasons, doesn't seem to be present. I see nearly all the other in game functions, but not that one.
Am I missing it?

Best regard,
Simon

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2018-11-07 12:00:26

3342. there is already a key config. 3344. I don't believe there is a music volume key, so it would be interesting to see if you can do it through the arrows.
3343. that, I'm not entirely sure of. I believe you can replace page up and page down, but according to akilor, when I was trying to accomplish it, you still had to use page up and down with g, and changing those wouldn't have worked properly. with that said, I have a laptop for gaming that does have page up and down, but I could probably have a play with it and see what I can find. the issue is, a mac has different hardware to windows. for example, I know some people who can use page up and down through FN with g, and use the camera just fine. I have a laptop, who's entire numPad, if disabling numLock, becomes arrows, home end, page up down, etc. in other words, just because I get it to work, it may not work for everyone.

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2018-11-07 23:15:36

Hi where is the key config located i can't find it

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2018-11-13 10:23:50

How do one craft axe and sword in this new version? The instruction on BSG doesn't work anymore.

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2018-11-14 15:28:29

Before I got a full windows machine I ran Windows on a mac in VMware fusion, and the fn pluss arrows worked fine for me.

Power is not the responsibility of freedom, but it is actually the responsibility of being responsible, it's self, because someone who is irresponsible is enslaved by their own weaknesses.

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2018-11-15 13:26:56

Nop, fn plus arrow keys doesn't work for me. I think it would have worked on my previews computer, but not for this one.
If only there was a way to manage the different volumes in an alternative menu so those who can't do it with their keyboard could do it manually.

Best regard,
Simon

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2018-11-15 13:47:42

@Simon
i can help by changeing the volumes useing nvda remote. my name in the game is mazenalfraidi

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