2018-10-19 20:18:21 (edited by Slender 2018-10-19 20:18:40)

Dekyo-NEC2608, yes, I'm familiar with that line, it appears several times in the DLS, I think, though I thought it was SoundForge 4.51.

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2018-10-19 20:27:05

I wonder why the month and day change every time that I found a new line with the same structure.

Yamaha YM2608

YOU
SAY! - Sonic the Hedgehog CD (Dec 4, 1992 prototype)

2018-10-19 20:42:29

Probably because the samples were edited over several months. This seems to be metadata from SoundForge, though it's surprising that that was preserved.

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2018-10-21 19:50:16

Maybe a Little off topic, but anyway.

Do anyone know how to remove an instrument from a midi file in QWS?

2018-10-29 08:24:19 (edited by Dekyo-NEC2608 2018-10-29 08:25:19)

Hello everyone,
I got CRIMSON's DLS TOOLS for curiosity, to know if the Windows CE sound bank can be opened. But sadly, DLS TOOLS does not open it. Perhaps because I've the demo version of the software?
As i mentioned before, the full version can't be found in any place.

Yamaha YM2608

YOU
SAY! - Sonic the Hedgehog CD (Dec 4, 1992 prototype)

2018-12-04 00:26:57 (edited by Slender 2018-12-04 00:28:21)

Do any editors, other than Direct Music Producer, even support the Mobile DLS specification? I think part of the problem as that many editors can't read Mobile DLS, and also that it's almost impossible to find the codec that encoded the samples anywhere. I know that the file that houses the codec is msacmce.dll, but I don't know much else about it.

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2018-12-04 00:30:43

Maybe, newest versions of Awave Studio? But they're inaccessible at all. DLS TOOLS is usable at least for navigating in menus and such things.

Yamaha YM2608

YOU
SAY! - Sonic the Hedgehog CD (Dec 4, 1992 prototype)

2018-12-04 00:35:04

If it could read them, I think it would probably just be able to read the 28 samples that Direct Music Producer could extract. OpenMPT can read them as well.

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2018-12-04 00:47:31

Where do you get that info about msacmce.dll? I've never heard of that.

Yamaha YM2608

YOU
SAY! - Sonic the Hedgehog CD (Dec 4, 1992 prototype)

2018-12-04 01:14:30

Msacmce.dll is a file that's part of CE that contains the codec that decodes the samples in the DLS. I found this in a rather hacky way,by replacing the DLL with something else and seeing if it would still work.

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2020-07-07 23:48:18

At long last, I extracted the samples from wince_gm!
They are still encoded, but at least I have the wav files now!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sdZrgp … sp=sharing

2020-07-08 03:50:02

Saury for the double post, but I can see some hope in getting these samples decoded. I was able to play all of them in my Windows XP vm with no problem, despite Direct Music Producer only being able to read 28 of 350 samples.

2020-07-08 11:06:11 (edited by Slender 2020-07-08 11:14:31)

Finally! It seems that you can sort of play them with FFmpeg, but not all of them, some don't decode properly, while others seem to play at the wrong sample rate.

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2020-07-08 11:26:18 (edited by datajake1999 2020-07-08 11:27:13)

I decoded the samples with goldwave. Interestingly, in the drum samples, the pre-ringing and screeches are gawn. I think this is because goldwave is using a newer WMA decoder. Yes, the format of the samples is Windows Media Audio version 1.
As for the samples playing back at the wrong sample rate, that is a simple fix. Just change the playback rate.
As for the long-awaited samples, they can be found in their uncompressed PCM form at:
http://grossgang.com/wince_gm_decoded_samples.zip
Now its time to create a soundfont.